From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
farsighted and have 20/100 vision. I was under the impression that a
farsighted person would need glasses for close work not distance. I talked to
one of my friends who is farsighted(who wears glasses all the time) who says
he can't see close or far. Can anyone explain this?
> From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
> confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
> farsighted and have 20/100 vision. I was under the impression that a
> farsighted person would need glasses for close work not distance. I
> talked to one of my friends who is farsighted(who wears glasses all
> the time) who says he can't see close or far. Can anyone explain this?
I'm not a doctor, but I'll try. First of all, there are other things
besides near/far-sightedness that go into acuity, and acuity is
measured at both near and far. Having said that, ideally, the eye is
in a relaxed accomodative state when looking at distance. To see
close, the muscles of the eye actively do things to bring things into
focus. For a farsighted person, accomodation is required already to
see at distance (their relaxed state is looking beyond infinity). This
limits their ability to see close (since there is a limited range of
accomodation), but if it's bad enough, it would be possible that they
couldn't even accomodate enough to see far away.
Hopefully that makes some sense. Someone else will chime in if I said
something that isn't correct.
I know a few people who are farsighted and wear glasses full time. I
asked one how the vision was at distance with no glasses and he said he
couldn't see. He could be very far sighted, or maybe he has
astigmatism correction too and didn't know about it.
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Dear Concerned Parent,
Part of this problem is the definition of the refractive STATES
of the fundamental eye. The word "farsighted" has TWO
meanings for all practical purposes.
>From the Donders-Helmoltz theory (box-camera paradigm),
the refractive STATES of the natural eye are defined as follows.
The only NORMAL eye must have a refractive STATE of
EXACTLY ZERO.
A negative refractive STATE is myopia.
A positive refractive STATE is farsighedness.
This is the absolute definition of the natural eye.
Thus your children are either farsighed or myopic,
as long as you do not properly define the refractive
states of the natural eye. This is why there
is so much confusion about the word "farsighed".
Best,
Otis
> From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
> confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
> farsighted and have 20/100 vision. I was under the impression that a
> farsighted person would need glasses for close work not distance. I talked to
> one of my friends who is farsighted(who wears glasses all the time) who says
> he can't see close or far. Can anyone explain this?
Mike Tyner - 06 Sep 2006 15:51 GMT
> Part of this problem is the definition of the refractive STATES
> of the fundamental eye. The word "farsighted" has TWO
> meanings for all practical purposes.
If your purpose is to confuse and obfuscate, this is true.
> The only NORMAL eye must have a refractive STATE of
> EXACTLY ZERO.
Only a tiny minority have a refractive STATE of zero, so NORMAL is
inappropriate.
> A negative refractive STATE is myopia.
Myopia is a refractive STATE corrected by negative lenses. A myopic EYE is
too "positive."
> A positive refractive STATE is farsighedness.
FarsighTedness is is a refractive STATE corrected by positive lenses. A
farsighted EYE is too "negative."
> This is the absolute definition of the natural eye.
No, it's an absolutely idiotic definition.
> Thus your children are either farsighed or myopic,
> as long as you do not properly define the refractive
> states of the natural eye. This is why there
> is so much confusion about the word "farsighed".
"Absolute" enlightenment from someone who reverses sign conventions and
can't spell.
Newsgroups are the gutter of the internet.
-MT
> From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
> confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
> farsighted and have 20/100 vision. I was under the impression that a
> farsighted person would need glasses for close work not distance.
It depends on age, because focusing ability decreases with age.
Three diopters of farsightedness might go unnoticed in a 10-year-old. At age
55, the same three diopters would limit near vision dramatically, but it
would reduce _distance_ vision as well, to something like 20/100.
-MT, OD
Neil Brooks - 06 Sep 2006 20:02 GMT
> > From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
> > confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
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>
> -MT, OD
Ya know, Otis....
In isolation, your posts =always= make you look like an idiot.
When Mike, or one of the other doctors, comes behind you and
(graciously) cleans up your mess, the degree to which you are ignorant
and dangerous is increased by an order of magnitude.
It'd be funny ... if you weren't dangerous ... and deranged ... and
under investigation by the State of Pennsylvania ... and pathologically
ill.
concerned parent - 06 Sep 2006 21:59 GMT
Thank all of you for the information.
>> From time to time I read some of the posts on this site. I am a little
>> confused about farsightedness. I have seen people post that they are
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>-MT, OD