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concerned parent - 02 Sep 2006 00:49 GMT
How bad does a person's astigmatism have to be to need toric contact lenses?
Someone told me it would be around a 1.25, is that true?
Anon E. Muss - 02 Sep 2006 01:54 GMT
>How bad does a person's astigmatism have to be to need toric contact lenses?

It depends on one's tolerance for blur.

The lowest amount of astigmatism found in most soft toric contact
lenses is 0.75DC.  Some custom torics will go as low as 0.50DC.  I am
unaware of any that go lower than that (although they may exist).

>Someone told me it would be around a 1.25, is that true?

I usually consider a toric on anyone 0.50DC or greater, although a lot
of my patients with 0.75DC of astigmatism go around with spherical
soft contact lenses.
Esmerelda - 02 Sep 2006 06:58 GMT
Anon E. Muss
For your .50 cases would you prescribe an additional .25 sphere?  I've heard
that's also done for lower levels.
Anon E. Muss - 02 Sep 2006 15:24 GMT
>Anon E. Muss
>For your .50 cases would you prescribe an additional .25 sphere?

Almost never.

Only extremely picky patients complain about not having 0.50DC of
astigmatism corrected.  I'm not saying many patients don't notice it
-- it's just that it's a rare patient that complains sufficiently to
request an attempt at correcting it.

IOW, in the vast majority of cases I try a spherical lens only in
patients with 0.50DC of astigmatism.
LarryDoc - 02 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
> >Anon E. Muss
> >For your .50 cases would you prescribe an additional .25 sphere?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> -- it's just that it's a rare patient that complains sufficiently to
> request an attempt at correcting it.

And, of course, the higher the spherical correction, the less important
.5 DC.

> IOW, in the vast majority of cases I try a spherical lens only in
> patients with 0.50DC of astigmatism.

Additionally, many of the new(er) aspheric lenses "mask" lower amounts
of astigmatism and some of the si-hydros are "stiffer" and further
correct small amounts of cornea -based astigmatism.  

The only exception I've found is low plus .75 and more ATR astigs really
do need the cyl correction.  Like me!  I'm anxiously awaiting the
Purevision Toric in MY rx---aspheric, silicone, corrected cyl-----coming
to the slightly-behind-the-rest-of-the-world USA allegedly in two weeks!  
A multifocal version would be nice, eh?

LB, O.D.
Anon E. Muss - 02 Sep 2006 23:35 GMT
[snip]

>> IOW, in the vast majority of cases I try a spherical lens only in
>> patients with 0.50DC of astigmatism.
>
>Additionally, many of the new(er) aspheric lenses "mask" lower amounts
>of astigmatism

So they say.  I've tried Frequency 55 Aspherics on such patients in
the past, and while they are nice for HEMA lenses I really question
how much better they are than a regular Frequency 55 Sphere.

>and some of the si-hydros are "stiffer" and further correct small
>amounts of cornea -based astigmatism.  
>
>The only exception I've found is low plus .75 and more ATR astigs really
>do need the cyl correction.  Like me!

Younger patients tend to tolerate low amounts of cylinder more than
older ones also.

>I'm anxiously awaiting the Purevision Toric in MY rx---aspheric,
>silicone, corrected cyl-----coming to the slightly-behind-the-rest
>-of-the-world USA allegedly in two weeks!  

Acuvue Advance for Astigmatism don't work for you?

>A multifocal version would be nice, eh?

Sure!
LarryDoc - 03 Sep 2006 03:51 GMT
> Acuvue Advance for Astigmatism don't work for you?

Nope. Only three axis available in plus powers here (of course I need
one they don't make), the lens irritates the hell out of my eyes
(Purevision doesn't, usually) and, even if it did work, Purevision has
almost twice the oxygen perm.

On the aspheric issue, the Ciba si-hydros do very well and far better
than the Frequency. Besides "offsetting" the astig, you sometimes get up
to a diopter (or more) of apparent add power.  There are a bunch of
lenses with varying degrees of aspheric e values. Sometimes they work,
sometimes they don't.

LB, O.D.
Jan - 02 Sep 2006 23:07 GMT
Esmerelda via MedKB.com schreef:
> Anon E. Muss
> For your .50 cases would you prescribe an additional .25 sphere?  I've heard
> that's also done for lower levels.

It is useless to add half the amount of the astigmatism to the needed
spherical power of the contactlens.

If you are familiar with refraction methods,  think about the following.

With the same amount of uncorrected astigmatism you get the same acuity
in vision when the retina is placed between the two focus lines (no
matter where) or just with one focus line on the retina and the other in
front or rear position.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
concerned parent - 02 Sep 2006 23:10 GMT
Thank you all for your reply.

>>How bad does a person's astigmatism have to be to need toric contact lenses?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>of my patients with 0.75DC of astigmatism go around with spherical
>soft contact lenses.
Charles - 02 Sep 2006 02:30 GMT
> How bad does a person's astigmatism have to be to need toric contact
> lenses?  Someone told me it would be around a 1.25, is that true?

All I have is astigmatism.  I wouldn't go without correction unless it
was well below 0.5D.  I'm not real sure (I'm not a doc) why the torics
don't go below 0.75 - maybe because they figure 0.5 can round up to
0.75 and 0.25 doesn't matter.  Also, from what I understand, some
amount of astigmatism is corrected by the corneal reshaping effect of
even soft lenses.

I'd guess that somewhere between 0.5 and 0.75 would make toric (or RGP)
necessary for most people.  But again, I'm just a layman who has some
personal experience.

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