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Medical Forum / General / Vision / August 2006

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My two night soft contact lens orthoK experience, will try RGP orthoK.

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Ace - 20 Aug 2006 07:00 GMT
By now, you are really wondering how my orthoK went. Keep in mind I
tried a simple verson and type of soft contact lens based orthoK. It
*does* work for some people, improving vision by up to 2 diopters
reduction in myopia. One lady reduced her myopia by a diopter. It is a
cheap way to practice orthoK and experience it before deciding to
plunge $1000-2000 on RGP orthoK. I failed to achieve any measurable
amount of improvement with soft orthoK for two nights that I tried it.
I was able to fall asleep in those contacts, although they were
uncomfortable while awake and when I woke to use the bathroom, my eyes
felt dry and uncomfortable. Gently massaging my closed eyelids with my
wet fingers and blinking a few times helped. I did not feel a thing
when I closed my eyes. My friend also mentioned the discomfort and
adjustment period.

OrthoK is more comfortable and easier to tolerate than daily wear
contact lenses in mine and other's experiences. My theory is perhaps
soft contacts are too flimsy to really mold your cornea epithelium,
although it appears to work for some people. I was planning to use soft
orthoK till I upgrade to RGP orthoK once I have the money. Since soft
orthoK is not effective for me, I am sticking to glasses and natural
vision improvement for now while saving up for RGP orthoK. I need to
get a consultation, sooner the better. An orthoK practioner that offers
some sort of satisfaction guarantee is preferred and also one that
doesnt chage a fortune like $2000. I am not touching lasik, it is
either RGP orthoK for me or ill stick to glasses till technology
advances where something based on orthoK or some other method gets
invented that has risks as low as contacts/orthoK *and* is reversable,
an important safety net in case of dissatisfaction.

My reccomendation is if you dont mind daily wear contacts, stick to
that. There is very little point to orthoK if you are fine wearing
contacts while awake. OrthoK is aimed at glasses wearers who which to
reduce dependency on glasses and improve their unaided vision.
Refractive surgury, especially lasik is not a viable option as its very
risky and causes complications. People have glasses or contacts/orthoK
as their choice. Technology a few years from now may offer additional
choices or improvements in glasses, contacts and orthoK for improved
comfort and better vision. Most people dont like glasses or their poor
uncorrected vision, but for now, their choices are limited. I have been
dealing with glasses and will countinue to do so as long as neccessary.
Jan - 20 Aug 2006 13:07 GMT
Several (major) snip in a bunch of blablabla

> By now, you are really wondering how my orthoK went.

not really....

> OrthoK is more comfortable and easier to tolerate than daily wear
> contact lenses in mine and other's experiences.

You never tried daily wear RGP contactlenses Ace....., neither did you try
the OK lenses.

Final conclusion as earlier concluded by several other real eyecare people
here, you stick to glasses for a long, long time after this message.

Ace , for now, bedtime, give mom and dad a kiss and dissapear between the
sheets and remember hands above the sheets.

O, after you wake up , google on masturbation and short sightness and show
us on of your discoveries after that.

Remember, me, being the pope , I have the real second opinion knowledge.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
CatmanX - 21 Aug 2006 22:17 GMT
> O, after you wake up , google on masturbation and short sightness and show
> us on of your discoveries after that.
>
> Remember, me, being the pope , I have the real second opinion knowledge.
>
> Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Hah, Hah.

ROFL, good one Jan

dr grant
Ace - 22 Aug 2006 08:48 GMT
Jan:

> You never tried daily wear RGP contactlenses Ace....., neither did you try
> the OK lenses.

Only have experience with soft contacts/soft orthoK. Ill be trying RGP
orthoK once I save up about $1500

> Final conclusion as earlier concluded by several other real eyecare people
> here, you stick to glasses for a long, long time after this message.
Its either RGP orthoK for me or glasses. Technology in the near future
will open new alternatives. There are dozens of millions who too would
like to reduce their dependency on glasses.

> Ace , for now, bedtime, give mom and dad a kiss and dissapear between the
> sheets and remember hands above the sheets.
LOL I am not 12!

> O, after you wake up , google on masturbation and short sightness and show
> us on of your discoveries after that.

Problems associated with Over-Masturbation and Over-Ejaculation
(Document 1);
The result: Sexual Exhaustion - What? Why? and How? Over-ejaculation
melts down the acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions first
and then the liver functions that release essential enzymes for the
syntheses of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine and
serotonin and  the chains of hormone production; it causes the brain
and adrenal functions to perform excessive
dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and
body functions to be extremely sympathetic.  It results in the brain's
and nervous dysfunctions, stress, anxiety, impatience, eye floaters or
fuzzy vision, buzzing (noisy) ears, cardiovascular irregularities,
urinary incontinence, male and female "prostatitis,"  weak kidney
functions, pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone, weak
muscles or ligaments, and so on.

Myopia is not always caused by masturbation. In my case, wearing a -1
lens when I was 12 caused my stair-case myopia.

CatmanX, you are an orthoK expert that has done 800+ people and only 3
wanted a refund. Have you done any soft contact lens orthoK?
Jan - 22 Aug 2006 19:26 GMT
Ace schreef:
> Jan:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Only have experience with soft contacts/soft orthoK. Ill be trying RGP
> orthoK once I save up about $1500

There is no such, based on soft contactlenses, OK, in other words you
had no OK, period.

Speaking of saving money, get a job, the sooner the better for all of us.
I'll take it for granted you never try OK so stop telling us you shall.

>> Final conclusion as earlier concluded by several other real eyecare people
>> here, you stick to glasses for a long, long time after this message.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> O, after you wake up , google on masturbation and short sightness and show
>> us on of your discoveries after that.

> Myopia is not always caused by masturbation. In my case, wearing a -1
> lens when I was 12 caused my stair-case myopia.

What a laugh you are Ace.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
 
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