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William Stacy - 27 Jul 2006 04:56 GMT
I've made it a policy not to respond to any myopia prevention threads,
but I can't resist this one.  I had a patient in today, age 55 who I've
had in -1.50 o.u. for years, and she's still wearing them, in spite of
some recent symptoms of eyestrain.  Today I refracted her at +1.00 o.d.
and plano o.s.

So my minus lenses cured her myopia?

I think so.

the minus lens rocks.

w.stacy, o.d.
otisbrown@pa.net - 27 Jul 2006 05:03 GMT
Yet another anectdotal report by a majority-opinion OD.

That is n = 1.  An no one else can verify it.

She was probably over-prescribed in the first place.

Best,

Otis

> I've made it a policy not to respond to any myopia prevention threads,
> but I can't resist this one.  I had a patient in today, age 55 who I've
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> w.stacy, o.d.
Dr. Leukoma - 27 Jul 2006 05:23 GMT
> Yet another anectdotal report by a majority-opinion OD.
>
> That is n = 1.  An no one else can verify it.
>
> She was probably over-prescribed in the first place.

According to you, any minus is too much.

DrG
William Stacy - 27 Jul 2006 05:30 GMT
> She was probably over-prescribed in the first place.

Exactly.  And I went along with it.  And what do you know? She turned
hyperopic.  So over-prescribing minus works.  It changes myopes into
hyperopes.

The minus lens rocks.

Minus for everyone!

w.stacy, o.d.
Quick - 27 Jul 2006 05:52 GMT
> Yet another anectdotal report by a majority-opinion OD.

How many sons did you say that printer had?

-Quick
Mike Tyner - 27 Jul 2006 13:04 GMT
> Yet another anectdotal report by a majority-opinion OD.
>
> That is n = 1.  An no one else can verify it.

Well, it's typical for myopes over 30. But you didn't know that because
you've never measured any.

> She was probably over-prescribed in the first place.

So, why didn't it make her worse? Why isn't Ace getting more nearsighted?

-MT
drfrank21@gmail.com - 27 Jul 2006 15:05 GMT
> Yet another anectdotal report by a majority-opinion OD.
>
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>
> Otis

Let me get this straight. Your antedoctal evidence of
some printer's son or guy in Hong Kong is valid and
proof while O.D.'s in the real world  sees
dozens of examples daily of ALL age groups of no changes
in myopic progression. You get to pick and choose.
Right??

frank
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 27 Jul 2006 10:27 GMT
> I've made it a policy not to respond to any myopia prevention threads,
> but I can't resist this one.  I had a patient in today, age 55 who I've
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>
> w.stacy, o.d.

Its a fact most, if not all people experience a hyperopic shift as they
get older. She no longer needs the minus but does need the plus lens,
especially for reading. I will be alot less myopic when I too reach my
40s or 50s, ive been told to expect to end up around a -2 which is good
enough to stay out of readers except for fine print and stay out of
minus most of the time except for driving, movies, going out somewhere.
William Stacy - 27 Jul 2006 18:56 GMT
hope springs eternal...

>I will be alot less myopic when I too reach my
>40s or 50s, ive been told to expect to end up around a -2 which is good
>enough to stay out of readers except for fine print and stay out of
>minus most of the time except for driving, movies, going out somewhere.
>
>  
Scott Seidman - 27 Jul 2006 22:30 GMT
acemanvx@yahoo.com wrote in news:1153992438.775500.254120
@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

>  I will be alot less myopic when I too reach my
> 40s or 50s

Even if your correction goes all the way to plano, you will still be very
myopic.

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Dr. Leukoma - 28 Jul 2006 02:00 GMT
> acemanvx@yahoo.com wrote in news:1153992438.775500.254120
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> Even if your correction goes all the way to plano, you will still be very
> myopic.

A 12 diopter myope who undergoes LASIK, still has a 12 diopter myope
posterior chamber.  I think that's a fair analogy?

DrB
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 28 Jul 2006 10:12 GMT
> acemanvx@yahoo.com wrote in news:1153992438.775500.254120
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> Scott
> Reverse name to reply

Whatever myopia I have under cycloplegic is my true axial myopia.
Normal eyeballs are 24mm, mine may be just over 25mm, not bad.
Extremely high myopes can have 30+ mm eyeballs! now *that* is bad!
Dr. Leukoma - 28 Jul 2006 13:52 GMT
> Whatever myopia I have under cycloplegic is my true axial myopia.
> Normal eyeballs are 24mm, mine may be just over 25mm, not bad.
> Extremely high myopes can have 30+ mm eyeballs! now *that* is bad!

Ace, it may take you awhile to catch onto a concept, but when you do,
you're like a bulldog.  You won't let go.

DrG
 
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