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question about eye exams and what the doctor sees

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bruin70@mail.com - 21 Jul 2006 09:20 GMT
when i went to the opthamologist to have an eye exam, he did the whole
thing of corse, i guess looking at my whatever.

anyway, when he was done he said i'm ok with this and that, no diabetic
prob etc etc....but what caught my ear was that he said my blood
pressure was ok. now THIS is important to me because i take medication
for high bp.

my question is, does the eye doc see something in his exam that is more
accurate than my doc taking a blood pressure reading?
Sandy - 21 Jul 2006 15:33 GMT
> when i went to the opthamologist to have an eye exam, he did the whole
> thing of corse, i guess looking at my whatever.
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> my question is, does the eye doc see something in his exam that is more
> accurate than my doc taking a blood pressure reading?

See this article:
http://www.opt.indiana.edu/clinics/pt_educ/iexam/main.htm

Eye docs often take your blood pressure the same way as in your GP's
office.  Looking in the eye is not "more accurate," it simply can show
signs of hypertension.
Don W - 22 Jul 2006 09:25 GMT
> Eye docs often take your blood pressure the same way as in your GP's
> office.  Looking in the eye is not "more accurate," it simply can show
> signs of hypertension.

And what might these "signs" consist of?

Don W.
Anon E. Muss - 21 Jul 2006 16:41 GMT
>when i went to the opthamologist to have an eye exam, he did the whole
>thing of corse, i guess looking at my whatever.
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>my question is, does the eye doc see something in his exam that is more
>accurate than my doc taking a blood pressure reading?

By examining your eyes, in particular examining the choroidal and
retinal vasculature, a doctor may be able to detect *chronic* changes
from hypertension that your internist may not suspect are occuring.

One blood pressure reading is a "snapshot" in time.  Examination of
the ocular fundus vasculature is more of a picture of long-term
control and can demonstrate the long-term changes from hypertension.

Maybe a good analogy would be a solitary blood glucose reading versus
a hemoglobin A1C measurement in diabetes.
bruin70@mail.com - 22 Jul 2006 04:41 GMT
i have read the hyperT can affect some organ function etc, like kidney
and liver, and i have noticed that many nephrologists also specialize
in hypertension.

in respect to hyperT's effect on other functions and a doctor's ability
to note "chronic changes", does an eye exam gauge potential side
effects of hyperT  better than a BP exam?

and how can this kind of eye exam be taken?
bruin70@mail.com - 22 Jul 2006 04:51 GMT
,,,,,,,,,,,,,

> and how can this kind of eye exam be taken?

i meant "how OFTEN should this eye exam be taken"
bruin70@mail.com - 22 Jul 2006 04:50 GMT
i guess what all my questioning is leading to is,,,,if my primary says
i have moderate high bp, and that's that,,, so take your medicine...can
an eye doc say "well wait a minute, he may have high bp but my exams
show everything is under control as it is." ?

my bp is actually ok at home but my doc says it's too high for home
bp(anywhere from 14x/100 when i'm moving about the house, to 13x/90
when i'm laying around, to high 120's low 130's over low 80's when i'm
relaxing watching tv).
Dr Judy - 23 Jul 2006 17:58 GMT
> i guess what all my questioning is leading to is,,,,if my primary says
> i have moderate high bp, and that's that,,, so take your medicine...can
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> when i'm laying around, to high 120's low 130's over low 80's when i'm
> relaxing watching tv).

What your eye doc should have said is that there are no signs of
hypertensive retinopathy.  Without actually measuring your blood
pressure, there is no way of knowing if it is high or not.  Even if he
measured it, you were taking meds to control it, so he should have
found it normal.

The eye signs of high blood pressure don't show up until the BP has
been moderately high for a long time or have are dangerously high
(200/150 or so).  Your eye doc can tell if you have eye damage
consistent with high blood pressure and should then recommend that you
see your family doc for assessment.   But he can't tell, from your eyes
only, if the BP is slightly elevated.   And even if the BP is
dangerously elevated, if it has not yet caused eye damage then your eye
doc will still say the eye has no signs of hypertension.
bruin70@mail.com - 24 Jul 2006 00:03 GMT
can high bp cause a temporary and inexplicable vision problem?

about 5 months ago a double vision problem just happened in my right
eye that lasted for 1.5 months. the eye doc said the problem eye was
not syncing with the good one and was stress related and it happens all
the time. i do have stress. this thing just happened,,,like literally,
as i was walking down the street.

> > i guess what all my questioning is leading to is,,,,if my primary says
> > i
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> dangerously elevated, if it has not yet caused eye damage then your eye
> doc will still say the eye has no signs of hypertension.
 
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