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Albinism and reduction of high definition receptiors

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Adrian Parker - 07 Jul 2006 18:31 GMT
Hi,

I've been told that in the eye of a person with albinism, there are fewer
rods to 'see' fine detail of an image.   So even if all the other eye
conditions were corrected, there would still be a problem seeing.

Does anyone know what % the reduction of Rods is as compared to a normal eye
?

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acemanvx@yahoo.com - 07 Jul 2006 20:07 GMT
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I read that albinos have less rods/cones so they are often legally
blind. I read the posts of one in another forum who sees 20/150 and he
considers himself lucky because some see much worse. Another described
her vision as pixalized with antialising as the best description she
could give. A normal person could look at an "E" and see it perfectly
sharp. She would also see it sharp but it may be too small.

http://www.yorku.ca/eye/popepix.gif

This is the best description I can find. Again, albinos would NOT see
blurry, but more like pixelized but not this exaggerated, just lacking
any fine details due to low density of rods/cones.
Adrian Parker - 07 Jul 2006 21:24 GMT
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| blurry, but more like pixelized but not this exaggerated, just lacking
| any fine details due to low density of rods/cones.

Sorry, should have explained, I have albinism, so I know what the vision is
like, I am trying to find out about the general reduction of fine detail
receptor cells (rods) in the eye.     I've been having neurofeedback to
correct the nystagmus and it has helped for near sight, but not long
distance, and I'm wondering if it is because of the fine receptors not being
able to resolve down to a small enough resolution.

My vision is betwen 6/24 and 6/36 (20/80 and 20/120)
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 08 Jul 2006 01:52 GMT
Ah I see. I will do more research on that. Do you see the world
pixelized with anisometropia blurring? Can you describe what you see
exactly?
Adrian Parker - 08 Jul 2006 08:43 GMT
| Ah I see. I will do more research on that. Do you see the world
| pixelized with anisometropia blurring? Can you describe what you see
| exactly?

With albinism, there are several other factors that affect vision:-
Nystagmus, Astigmatism, Photophobia, Squint and Strabismus.

I'm told that when I squint, it adversely affects the vision centres of the
brain, so I've been working on reducing that.

Nystagmus.. causes a problem because the brain has to snapshot images
instead of getting constant updates, so for a moving target, I'd see less
detail than a normal sighted person because of what is probably like a
strobing effect, you see the movement, but your brain only gets images now
and then and so has to fill in the gaps with a best guess.

Astigmatism.. in my case, my last eye test gave me figures of
Right Eye : Sph +7 Cyl -4 Axis 15
Left Eye : Sph +6 Cyl -2 Axis 175
So, as you can see, I need quite a high corrective lens, so my eyes are
trying to compensate for the imprecise nature of the lenses.

Photophobia.. this causes me to squint, so I have to ensure I wear a brimmed
hat and dark glasses outside else I have to squint a lot.

Strabismus.. With the treatment I've been having, this seems to have been
reduced quite a bit, my eyes are far more convergent than they used to be,
and my binocularity seems much improved.

So, to describe what I see compared to a normal sighted person has to take
into account several factors, including how tired my eyes are, or how
stressed I am (stress affects nystagmus a lot).  I do not see the world
moving from side to side because of my congenital nystamus as my brain edits
it out, nor do I see the world as a blur (like in your image), I see a clear
picture, but like you, when you look at a very distant object, you can see
it ok and it isn't blurred, you just can't make out fine detail.
Charles - 08 Jul 2006 13:30 GMT
Adrian,

Ace is just a kid who spends too much time on the computer.  I'm sorry
that he has hijacked the thread and no credible people have yet
replied.  I just wanted to warn you, and hopefully someone
knowledgeable will give you a good response.

> >  Ah I see. I will do more research on that. Do you see the world
> >  pixelized with anisometropia blurring? Can you describe what you
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> very distant object, you can see it ok and it isn't blurred, you just
> can't make out fine detail.
Adrian Parker - 08 Jul 2006 22:32 GMT
I did get the idea that he wasn't a professional when he asked about how I
see, hence I gave an explanation of all that is occurring..  as I believe
that the more people who understand the visual problems people have, the
better :)    Albinism in particular is a very misunderstood and often
vilified condition (take the da vinci code file for example).

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| > very distant object, you can see it ok and it isn't blurred, you just
| > can't make out fine detail.
Charles - 08 Jul 2006 22:54 GMT
Until I saw your post (and followed up with some Googling) I didn't
realize that albinism so frequently caused (or came along with) poor
vision.  One site I read pointed out how albino characters are almost
exclusively villains...  for what it's worth, when I was a kid I was
addicted to a fantasy book series in which the hero/main character was
albino. ;)

Best of luck.

> I did get the idea that he wasn't a professional when he asked about
> how I see, hence I gave an explanation of all that is occurring..  as
> I believe that the more people who understand the visual problems
> people have, the better :)    Albinism in particular is a very
> misunderstood and often vilified condition (take the da vinci code
> file for example).
Mike Tyner - 09 Jul 2006 02:39 GMT
> exclusively villains...  for what it's worth, when I was a kid I was
> addicted to a fantasy book series in which the hero/main character was
> albino. ;)

Reminds me of a favorite Dean Koontz character, from Sieze The Night. -

"'The night is a kingdom of predators, in which every hunter is also the
hunted.' The night is also the favored realm of Christopher Snow, whose XP
(xeroderma pigmentosum) renders him extremely vulnerable to all forms of
light. When an old flame's son is abducted, Snow and his faithful dog Orson
track them to Fort Wyvern, an abandoned military base--and the site of
genetic research experiments gone awry. To recover the boy, Snow and his
friends must unearth Wyvern's darkest secrets. .. Though long, Seize the
Night will certainly hold your interest. (Running time: 12 hours, 10
cassettes)"

-MT
Scott Seidman - 10 Jul 2006 13:57 GMT
>  I've been having neurofeedback to
> correct the nystagmus and it has helped for near sight, but not long
> distance, and I'm wondering if it is because of the fine receptors not
> being able to resolve down to a small enough resolution.

There are a variety of methods used to decrease the congenital nystagmus
associated with albinism, and there success rates usually correlate to how
well you could see if the nystagmus isn't there.  

An inexpensive approach that might work real well and doesn't require any
training or repeated visits and such is simple base out prisms, with an
extra -1 cut in to account for the increased accomodation at far.

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Dr Judy - 09 Jul 2006 03:31 GMT
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Don't know the percentage, don't know if has been calculated.  In any
case, it will vary from individual to individual depending upon the
type and severity of the albinism.

It isn't actually rods that are reduced and rods are not responsible
for fine detail, cones are.  In albinism, the retinal pigment
epithelium (RPE) is very thin or missing, since it is a pigmented
tissue and pigment is what people with albinism lack.  The RPE supports
the photoreceptors, both rods and cones, and when it is lacking then
the photoreceptors either don't develop or develop poorly.   Fine
detail is lacking because the cones in the macula, the most detail
senstive part of the retina, are lacking or defective.  So yes, even if
other conditions like strabismus or refractive error are corrected, the
malfunctioning photo receptors means that acuity will be reduced.

The lack of good quality central vision often causes nystagmus as the
eye searches for the lacking crisp spot, provides less of a stimulus to
fusion so strabismus is common  with albinism and interferes with the
emmetropization process so that high refractive error is common with
albinism.

For more info, see

http://www.revoptom.com/handbook/SECT58a.HTM

Dr Judy
Adrian Parker - 09 Jul 2006 22:55 GMT
Many thanks !

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