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Is this normal?  Pink Eye/Conjunctivitis

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tforms1@yahoo.com - 06 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT
Ok, usually when I get a Cold, the timeline is:
First 3-4 Days - sore throat and tiredness
Next 3-4 Days - coughing and runny nose.

Now I started getting a sore throat on Friday and was down most of the
holiday weekend.
Tuesday night started with a cough.

Yesterday (Wednesday) I noticed my left eye is tearing up a lot.
And there seems to be more than normal "gunk" produced.
and its blood shot, but no itchiness or pain or grittiness feeling.

I was thinking this is due to my coughing ALOT...maybe the pressure
from coughing and being sick irritated/redden my eye.

But after doing some research it sounds like Viral conjunctivitis.
Which I heard can be caused by a cold.....?

I am currently out of town for work, but reading online, it sounds like
Viral conjunctivitis goes away on its own anyway.
So hopefully the cold and the eye problem will be done soon.

Basically 2 main questions:
1. Is this normal?  I've gotten lots of colds before, but I never heard
of getting Pink Eye from it.

2. I heard pink eye is very contagious, but what is the life span of
the virus on objects?
Like if I touch my eye and then a magazine, and my friend comes over
the next night, should he be careful?  Or does the virus die after a
few minutes in the open air?

Thanks
Mike Tyner - 06 Jul 2006 21:37 GMT
> Ok, usually when I get a Cold, the timeline is:
> First 3-4 Days - sore throat and tiredness
> Next 3-4 Days - coughing and runny nose.

Having a cold usually confers some limited immunity to *that strain* of cold
virus, for a couple of years.

Since your colds are usually different strains of virus, you can expect them
to vary in symptoms.

The eyes and the sinuses are physiologically very similar. Some "cold"
viruses infect the eyes as well, and other "eye" viruses might cause sore
throat and fever but not a stuffy nose.

These viruses (rhinovirus and adenovirus, primarily) all have similar
symptoms and all have the same treatment, more-or-less: rest, fluids,
decongestants and hygeine.

If your cough *caused* a "red eye" then it doesn't look like conjunctivitis,
it looks like a deep red stain covering part of the white of your eye. Blood
vessels break and bleed there sometimes. OTOH, generalized, "pink" vascular
congestion can be presumed viral when associated with fever, sore throat,
and enlarged lymph nodes.

> 2. I heard pink eye is very contagious, but what is the life span of
> the virus on objects?

About like cold viruses.

> Like if I touch my eye and then a magazine, and my friend comes over
> the next night, should he be careful?  Or does the virus die after a
> few minutes in the open air?

Cold viruses can survive several hours.

-MT, OD
tforms1@yahoo.com - 07 Jul 2006 01:40 GMT
> Since your colds are usually different strains of virus, you can expect them
> to vary in symptoms.

True, but my usual reactions to them have usually been pretty
consistant.
But this is the first time I have conjunctivitis symptoms, ever.

> The eyes and the sinuses are physiologically very similar. Some "cold"
> viruses infect the eyes as well, and other "eye" viruses might cause sore
> throat and fever but not a stuffy nose.

So viral conjunctivitis wouldnt show up along with a stuffy nose?
Hmmm so now Im wondering what it could be then.

> If your cough *caused* a "red eye" then it doesn't look like conjunctivitis,
> it looks like a deep red stain covering part of the white of your eye. Blood

You're right, thats why I looked into Pink Eye.
My initial thought was too much pressure, because I cough so much, that
sometimes I try to keep my mouth close to "stiffle" the cough.
But you're right, if the pressure caused redness, it would be a spot
most likely and not the blood vessels.

> Cold viruses can survive several hours.

Ok.  I was also concerned that when I leave the office on friday my
officemate who is out this week, would catch germs on monday, but the
germs should die by Saturday.

Yesterday was watering and producing gunk all day.
Usually when I wake up I have gunk at the corners of the eye, but this
time it is in the middle of the eye too.

But Today, while the eye is pretty red, its been mostly dry, and not
must gunk produced after I washed my eye out this morning.
It does feel "full" like its about to well up, but its not watery like
yesterday.

Strange-ness

Thanks
retinula - 07 Jul 2006 12:10 GMT
sure.  its commonplace to get a red irritated eye that is associated
with an upper respiratory infection.  some people even refer to this as
"a cold in your eye".  your tear duct is physically connected with your
throat were cold viruses reside.

the virus is no more contagious than a cold virus.  not much to worry
about but it is somewhat transmissable.  just use common sense (don't
share kleenex or hankerchief with others, wash hands frequently, etc.)
it is caused by certain strains of adenoviruses usually.

don't confuse this with severe pink eye which is also known as epidemic
keratoconjunctivitis.  that type of infection is pretty uncommon but is
extremely contagious and takes weeks to clear up.  the type of viral
conjunctivitis you have is self-limiting just like a cold and is
usually gone within a couple of days without any treatment.  i'll bet
its pretty much gone already.

no need to worry.

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> Ok, usually when I get a Cold, the timeline is:
> First 3-4 Days - sore throat and tiredness
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>
> Thanks
tforms1@yahoo.com - 10 Jul 2006 17:35 GMT
> sure.  its commonplace to get a red irritated eye that is associated
> with an upper respiratory infection.  some people even refer to this as
> "a cold in your eye".  your tear duct is physically connected with your
> throat were cold viruses reside.

Wow, I've just never heard of getting pink eye from a cold.
I've never known anyone who had it either.

> usually gone within a couple of days without any treatment.  i'll bet
> its pretty much gone already.

well, last Weds. my left eye was watering a lot and had gunk in it
during the day.
Thursday, it felt full, but did not water, and no gunk.
Friday - Today (monday) - both eyes are now red, but feels normal, no
watering, etc.
But everymorning my eyes are closed due to above average amounts of
gunk.

I still have a lingering cough from my cold, hopefully the eye thing
will go away by the time the cough is done.

Thanks
Mike Tyner - 10 Jul 2006 18:03 GMT
> Wow, I've just never heard of getting pink eye from a cold.
> I've never known anyone who had it either.

You can probably remember a cold "moving" from your nose to your throat to
your chest, no? Sometimes they "move" to the middle ear. Sometimes they move
to the eye. Sometimes they start in the eye. "Pharyngoconjunctival fever"
(PCF) is one especially annoying strain.

Often an opportunistic bacterium will cause a secondary infection that
_does_ respond to antibiotics. If your gluey lids continue, or if the
discharge is yellow, many doctors would prescribe for it.

-MT
tforms1@yahoo.com - 22 Jul 2006 07:07 GMT
Ok, my cold has been gone for about a week now, but I still have a tiny
lingering cough.

But I still seem to have pink eye.

About 2-3 weeks ago, when I had the cold, one day my eyes kept watering
and having discharge.
After that day, it stopped watering, but every morning there was
slightly higher than normal discharge.

Now (about 2-3 weeks later), the eyes still seem to be red (well the
blood vessels), but the past few days my eyes have actually felt drier
than normal. (I never had dry or watery eyes until this cold...my eyes
have always been normal feeling)
And when I leave a building and get into the sunlight, I seem to be
slightly more sensitive for a few minutes, of course this could be due
to the dryness.
I still have slightly higher than normal discharge in the morning.

What could the problem be?
I thought pink eye due to colds usually depart after a week, its been
about 2 weeks now.

Thanks
 
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