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Chronic Red Eye when using contacts - SOLUTION FOUND

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elizondojavier@gmail.com - 30 Jun 2006 18:13 GMT
I've been using contacts for over three decades without any problems.

Recently, about 5-6 months ago, a chronic red eye developed in my left
eye when using contact lens (Accuvue from J&J) for more than 1-2 hours.
 I stopped using the contact lens for the left eye, and continued to
use the right eye contact lens.
Last month I couldn't use the right eye contact lens either because I
would get red eye for using it for only 1-2 hours.

I blame the solution used to clean them, Renu no rub solution.
I have never used the "moisture lock" solution that has been reported
as causing many problems.
When researching for the "Baush & Lomb moisture Lock" problem, I found
that a fungus called fusarium develops in your cornea, and that there
are some pills that prevent fusarium from spreading.  I decided to try
them out.

I used those pills and my red eye disappeared completely.   So, I
assume that the no-rub solution from Renu must have some kind of the
same problem as the moisture-lock solution.
I use now the simplest solution from Alcon.

The name of the pills is  SPORANOX 15D capsules 100mg from the
laboratory Janssen-Cilag.
The active ingredient of these capsules is ITRACONAZOLE.

If you have red eye from using your contacts for a few hours, do
yourself a favor, and try those pills and change your cleaning solution
to Alcon.
Neil Brooks - 30 Jun 2006 18:24 GMT
>I've been using contacts for over three decades without any problems.
>
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>yourself a favor, and try those pills and change your cleaning solution
>to Alcon.

I think this is an *outstanding* idea.

I would absolutely skip the definitive diagnosis of fungal keratitis
and simply JUMP on the systemic antifungals with their associated
risks (liver toxicity included).

I would also recommend the doctor who prescribed this $7/pill medicine
WITHOUT any definitive diagnosis ... to all my friends.

NOW....

Would you please tell me that we're missing some INCREDIBLY
significant parts of this story????

Maybe your redness simply went away?  Maybe??

Who diagnosed fungal keratitis?  How did they confirm this?  Who
prescribed the Sporanox??

Thanks.
elizondojavier@gmail.com - 30 Jun 2006 22:32 GMT
Let me set the record straight.

First.  If you have a problem that requires an eye specialist
evaluation, just go get the help you need, do not waste time reading
how others have overcome their problems by other means.

Second.  There is a possibility that a certain substance that was used
by Bausch & Lomb in their moisture lock solution was also used in their
no-rub solution.   My problem wasn't one that require me to go to the
E.R., but an irritation that I consider may be a problem among many
people.   I suspect (I'm not a specialist) that many of the times that
you have red eye may be associated with a small infection of fusarium.
The day after I took the first pill (the package contains 15, I only
took 4) the redness had gone away completely.
That level of effectiveness surprised me.
The redness did not simply went away by any means.
That, I consider, is something that I must share over with other people
in this kind of groups.

I consulted no physician.

Whenever you have redness in your eye and visine wouldn't work, you now
have an alternative.

Regards,
Javier Elizondo

> >I've been using contacts for over three decades without any problems.
> >
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>
> Thanks.
Anon E. Muss - 30 Jun 2006 23:36 GMT
>Second.  There is a possibility that a certain substance that was used
>by Bausch & Lomb in their moisture lock solution was also used in their
>no-rub solution.   My problem wasn't one that require me to go to the
>E.R., but an irritation that I consider may be a problem among many
>people.   I suspect (I'm not a specialist) that many of the times that
>you have red eye may be associated with a small infection of fusarium.

Hahahahahahhahh.

Is this you?  <http://tinyurl.com/g8n4m>

> The day after I took the first pill (the package contains 15, I only
>took 4) the redness had gone away completely.
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>Whenever you have redness in your eye and visine wouldn't work, you now
>have an alternative.

Have you considered this to be the root cause of *all* your problems?

<http://tinyurl.com/qcffe>
drfrank21@gmail.com - 01 Jul 2006 00:36 GMT
> Let me set the record straight.
>
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> Regards,
> Javier Elizondo

I think you need a reality check.Fungal keratitis is NOT chronic, is
fairly
uncommon and do not have the same symptoms you described.
So how did you get the medication without a physician??

Hey, at least your toenails are healthier!!

Some people take the cake-boy are you a winner!!

frank
ArsenalFire - 07 Jul 2006 12:18 GMT
My wife had the same problem and the solution for her chronic red eye
was simply to use 2-3 drops of Drano qid.  Her eyes have never been
whiter!  I think I will share this with my friends, too.  It is amazing
what a simple tool she found to avoid a professional opinion.

She is waiting now for her vision to get better -- probably just taking
longer because she was using a ReNu MoistureLoc contact lens case.
retinula - 07 Jul 2006 16:12 GMT
funny, but dangerous.  some idiot like the one who started this thread
might actually try it.

(maybe the drano would work better orally ;))

> My wife had the same problem and the solution for her chronic red eye
> was simply to use 2-3 drops of Drano qid.  Her eyes have never been
> whiter!  I think I will share this with my friends, too.  It is amazing
> what a simple tool she found to avoid a professional opinion.
Anon E. Muss - 30 Jun 2006 18:50 GMT
>I've been using contacts for over three decades without any problems.
>
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>
>I used those pills and my red eye disappeared completely.

"A dog is an animal.  A cat is an animal.  Therefor a dog is a cat."
logic here.

>So, I assume that the no-rub solution from Renu must have some kind of
>the same problem as the moisture-lock solution.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>laboratory Janssen-Cilag.
>The active ingredient of these capsules is ITRACONAZOLE.

IOW, you believe that you had a fungal infection of your eye for 5-6
months, that only had symptoms when you wore your contact lenses for
more than 1-2 hours, and that by taking the antifungal medication
itraconazole, you have "cured" this problem?

This is nuts (or extremely naive) in so many ways.

>If you have red eye from using your contacts for a few hours, do
>yourself a favor, and try those pills and change your cleaning solution
>to Alcon.

A better idea is when you have a problem with your contacts, see your
eye doctor.
Neil Brooks - 30 Jun 2006 18:53 GMT
>>I used those pills and my red eye disappeared completely.

What if we *both* misread this.  What if his eye was entirely
enucleated by the antifungal drug?

We *were* making assumptions, after all....
 
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