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Medical Forum / General / Vision / May 2006Progressive lenses such as Varilux
Ok I have worn glasses for over 30 years. I have single lense -6.5 diopter lenses. I was wondering what the pricing might be like for progressive lenses like the varilux. My perscription is stable but my near sighted vesion is bad. I take off my glasses to and read most things better without glasses. Not in love with the bi-focal concept. Thanks for any comments, David > Ok I have worn glasses for over 30 years. I have single lense -6.5 > diopter lenses. I was wondering what the pricing might be like for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks for any comments, > David It depends on many factors such as the model (Comfort, Panamic, Liberty, etc), the lens material (CR-39, polycarb, 1.60, 1.67, etc), and where you purchase it. But expect to pay an average of $300 for a pair of Varilux brand progressive lenses (frames are obviously extra). >Ok I have worn glasses for over 30 years. I have single lense -6.5 >diopter lenses. I was wondering what the pricing might be like for >progressive lenses like the varilux. In my area, Varilux progressive lenses in standard plastic (CR-39) start around $200.00 and go up from there. >My perscription is stable but my near sighted vesion is bad. I take >off my glasses to and read most things better without glasses. Not >in love with the bi-focal concept. Does it bother you "a lot" to have to take your glasses off to read? If not, taking your glasses off when you want to read may be the best thing for you. In fact, a lot of my patients do just that and never go to bifocals. Progressives/bifocals for "someone like you" (i.e., nearsighted) is more for people who want to be able to read without having to take their glasses off. >Thanks for any comments, If you are a -6.50D myope, your lenses are, and will continue to be, thick if made in standard plastic. I would suggest looking into having them made in high-index plastic, keeping the frame relatively small with as close to a round shape and eyes centered in the frame as possible. As far as high-index in concerned, I normally recommend 1.67 or (recently) 1.74 with a high-quality anti-reflective coating. Be also aware that for many people it takes some time to learn how to use a bifocal or progressive lens. Don't expect to put it on and for it to instantly feel perfect or natural anymore than you would expect to pick up a guitar for the first time and feel perfectly comfortable playing beautiful music (but many do!). These are things your eye doctor or dispensing optician should discuss with you. Ok I got an idea of the cost now. Sounds like the recommendation might be against progressives. I know there will be an adjustment period. I have also heard that when you look away at something you need to turn your head and not your eyes. I have smaller frames and plastic lenses. Not sure if they are high-index or not. But one of the big problems I have with them is they have this white haze that never comes off no matter what they are cleaned with. What I was looking to do is: get rid of the white haze. get glasses that would help me focus better than what I have. I am a computer programmer. So I spend long hours in front of a computer. Other than that, my life is normal, driving, tv, movies, etc. Am I wasting my money on the idea of progressives, David >Ok I got an idea of the cost now. Sounds like the recommendation might >be against progressives. I know there will be an adjustment period. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >problems I have with them is they have this white haze that never comes >off no matter what they are cleaned with. Did they ALWAYS have this white haze? That could be scratched up lenses, scratched up hard coat (used on many hi index lenses) or (more likely) a scratched up anti-reflective coating. If you are "rough" on your glasses -- which really means you don't clean them 99% of the time using an unscented KLEENEX and liberal amounts of lens cleaner -- then an anti-reflective coating isn't for you. Glasses that have an anti-reflective coating need to be treated the same way you would treat an expensive camera lens -- i.e., don't clean them on your shirt, don't use WINDEX, don't use a KLEENEX on dry lenses. >What I was looking to do is: >get rid of the white haze. Get new lenses. >get glasses that would help me focus better than what I have. Are your "focusing" problems at distance, near or somewhere in between? >I am a computer programmer. So I spend long hours in front of a >computer. Other than that, my life is normal, driving, tv, movies, >etc. For people who spend long hours in front of a computer, a pair exclusively for computer use -- optimized for your work distances and enviornment are optimal. For people < 40 years old, many times their "everyday" glasses are adequate. For people >40, a pair of "VDT" glasses are sometimes mandatory to obtain the most comfortable, effortless and clear vision. >Am I wasting my money on the idea of progressives, For people who want/need to be able to read with their glasses on, I almost always recommend a progressive. For most people, I think it's the best type of multifocal lens. As far as wasting money, he more it "really bothers you" to have to take your glasses off to read, the more likely you are NOT wasting your money on progressives. One big recipe for failure is for an eye doctor to prescribe progressives for someone who has no real near complaints -- IOW, someone who takes their glasses off to read and who absolutely does not mind doing so. always have the white haze. No. As a matter of fact I have a second pair I bought at the same time and never wore. They do not have have the white haze. But alas I have taken the nose pad off them to fix these once. So they do not sit right on my face. So I can't just switch to them. I could take the nose pad off these and put it back on them. Hard on them. Not really. For the first couple years I used nothing but the glass cleaner rags and cleaner the glasses retailer gave me. They where running a special 2 for 1 on glasses and gave us 4 boxes of cleaner and rags. We still have lots of this cleaner. Might avoid an anti reflective coating next time, to keep the white haze from coming back. Fucus problem is mostly near. I am 41. Can someone explain simply how progressives work and what they will do and not do well. Thanks, David > always have the white haze. No. As a matter of fact I have a second > pair I bought at the same time and never wore. They do not have have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Thanks, > David If you get AR coating, I would recommend a premium coating like Crizal that much tougher than most. Yes, you usually can switch nose pads, but there is usually a piece that holds the nose pad that is not removable, and may have been bent to fit the frame on your face properly. Almost every optical store that I know of will change the nose pads for free, and many will do it even it you bought your lenses somewhere else. They will also adjust the pads on your second pair, if you want to try that first. Lencrafters is very good about this kind of free service (even though I think their lens products are very mediocre). Pad replacement: Yea I replaced the pads myself. It took about two hours of getting the tiny screws out and in. Turns out it was a mistake. My wife had the same problem a month later without the spare glasses to pull parts from. They did hers for free in about 15 minutes. Yea I got these glasses at eyemasters. I have gotten glasses at lenscrafters before but they where too expensive for what you got. With these I have no problem with what I got. I mean I got two pairs of glasses for myself two pairs for the wife one regular and one sunglass pair for about $600 4 years ago. Definately time for something new. David
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