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High prescription swim goggles

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bfrey - 25 May 2006 17:12 GMT
The question about swim goggles has me reconsidering prescription swim
goggles for my son.  He is blind in his left eye following a retinal
detachment at age 8.  His prescription in the right eye is -15.00 with
no astigmatism.  Years ago he had Rx goggles which he hated; I'm
guessing they were uncomfortable.  He spends a lot of the summer in the
pool and loves being underwater.  He's able to pick up a penny off the
bottom of the pool (no goggles).  I have two questions---in general, is
one brand of goggles more comfortable than others?  Also, the highest
Rx I've seen in swim goggles is -10.00 (our optician no longer carries
swim goggles made to order).  Would a -10.00 make sense for him, given
that he does already do quite well even without goggles?  I know the
water already provides a natural magnification.  My goal is to find
something comfortable so that he'll wear it, and to continue to protect
his right eye as much as possible.  My son has special needs and can
speak, but doesn't have enough communication to answer "why" he would
wear or not wear goggles, so it's my job to figure out as much in
advance as I can for him.  Any advice greatly appreciated!!  Beverly
Neil Brooks - 25 May 2006 17:40 GMT
> The question about swim goggles has me reconsidering prescription swim
> goggles for my son.  He is blind in his left eye following a retinal
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> wear or not wear goggles, so it's my job to figure out as much in
> advance as I can for him.  Any advice greatly appreciated!!  Beverly

Beverly,

First, I wish you strength with all of these challenges.  A lot to deal
with, I'm sure.

Second, have you contacted any of the manufacturers of prescription
swim goggles *directly* to see whether they *can and will* manufacture
lenses in higher minus powers?  As you can imagine, there is probably
little demand for this, but that doesn't mean that they can't, won't,
or--at least--perhaps they know of a manufacturer that will.

In terms of comfort: is there ANY way that your son could TRY
non-prescription versions of a few of the goggles?  The
non-prescription versions are fairly inexpensive and may give you a
much better idea of what he'll like before you go to the time, trouble,
and expense.

Next thought: what about a "mask," or a "low-profile" mask like:
http://www.usnavysealstore.com/site_map/SEAL_MASK___BLUE_FRAME___CLEAR_LENS.htm

Maybe a retailer like http://www.sporteyes.com/vju.htm would be a place
to start??

Best of luck....

Neil
William Stacy - 25 May 2006 18:56 GMT
If he's happy without swim goggles, I'm not sure I'd force them on him.
 Much of his high myopia is corrected under water by the similarity of
the indices of refraction, and there is no particular hazard that I know
of to him swimming without (assuming no water soccer, etc. kinds of
impact damages).

w.stacy, o.d.

>>The question about swim goggles has me reconsidering prescription swim
>>goggles for my son.  He is blind in his left eye following a retinal
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>
> Neil
bfrey - 26 May 2006 17:19 GMT
I definitely don't want to force swim goggles on him. I think that if
he has some that aren't uncomfortable, he might be happy to wear them
since he'd be able to see better.  I also think protecting his eye from
the irritant of chlorine would be a good idea.
Can you be a little more specific about how much his myopia is
corrected under water?  I'm only going by what I observe, and seeing
that he can pick up a penny at the bottom of the pool tells me he does
see awfully well under water.  He does spend some time above the water
as well, swimming across the pool, catching and throwing a (soft)
basketball, etc.  Definitely no water soccer allowed in our pool!! :)
I failed to mention in my original post that he also has a hearing loss
(mild to moderate in one ear, moderate to severe in the other), so he's
also without hearing aids in the water. He has to wear ear plugs as
well because he still requires ear tubes (at the age of 20). I hate to
have him compromised by two such important senses during this time.
Still, if he's happy and functioning ok, I won't make him wear swim
goggles if he can't tolerate them.
Thanks again for your input!!         Beverly
bfrey - 26 May 2006 17:09 GMT
Neil,
        Thanks for your thoughtful reply.  I know that "someone" will
make a -15.00, but with the magnification powers of the water, I don't
know how necessary that is.  (my son's old made to order goggles were
in a -15).  I only wear readers, so it's hard for me to know how it
feels/how things look when undercorrected.
          Yes, he would be able to try on goggles, although he gets
impatient and I usually don't get a good answer about which one is
comfortable, which is intolerable, etc.  I'm going to call the bigger
sporting good retailers and see how many options they have, as well as
the bigger optical shops.  It's certainly worth a try.
        I loke the style of the navy seal store mask; looks like it
just might be a bit more comfortable.
        Thanks again for your input!!  Beverly
Neil Brooks - 26 May 2006 17:33 GMT
>Neil,
>         Thanks for your thoughtful reply.  I know that "someone" will
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>just might be a bit more comfortable.
>         Thanks again for your input!!  Beverly

You're more than welcome, Beverly.

I've struggled with some pretty complex and disabling eye issues
pretty much since birth.  The only person that I know who, I believe,
has it tougher than I do is my mother ... watching a child's
struggles.

The underwater magnification issue seems pretty well addressed here:

http://scubageek.com/articles/wwwbigr.html

It seems like you get 25-30% magnification, depending on distance.  

Since your son IS myopic, and since the pool is a confined environment
(where water cloudiness could limit his "distance vision" long before
the myopia does), MY OPINION would be that there's *nothing* wrong
with an undercorrection in the goggle, BUT...

...since you're (rightfully) so cautious with your son, I'd rather the
docs on this site weigh in.  They may well be exactly right about
there being no long-term ill effects known to be associated with
unprotected swimming, but ... as a dry eye patient ... I just don't
see a lot of good in it.  Tough choice.

Again, best of luck.
 
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