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Medical Forum / General / Vision / May 2006Take the nearsighted survey! I have seen some and am making one now!
I am doing a survey for fun and research on nearsightedness. Any responses greatly appreciated. Survey questions, I'll answer first to serve as examples. 1. Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? I was 12 and got -1 2. Your current pescription(if you also have astigmastim, state it) and vision without correction(UCVA) and vision with correction(BCVA)? Left eye= -5 20/600, Right eye= -4 with -1 astig. 20/400, I correct to 20/30 and can see some of the 20/25 line. 3. Do you wear glasses or contacts, preference? Glasses. First tried contacts last year and tried them several times but could never tolerate them. 4. What things are you able to do without correction? Eat, read, go for a walk outside durning the day, go swimming, shower. Theres a few more things I can do but its not very easy nor comfortable with my poor UCVA. 5. How close do you need to hold things to see without lenses? This is elementary, but I see this question in the other survays so I have included it for completness. At -5 I can see at 1/5th meter. When I measured, I got 20.5 centimeters perfectly clear in the worse eye, 21.5cm in the better eye. Should be 25cm but the astigmastim blurs. With both eyes together, I read at 9-10 inches away but can read at a foot or even more in very bright light. 6. What age did you start wearing lenses full time and why? To the best of my memory, probably when I begun high school. I was already like -2.5 diopters. 7. How old are you now and male/female? Male of 24 years old. 8. How does your vision compare with other family members? Much of my family and relatives have the myopia gene. My eyes is quite bad but not as bad as my mom whos in the -7 range. My sister is just under -3(-2.75 contacts) and my lucky brother is only -1.25 so he doesnt need glasses except for driving. I have a cousin whos a high myope at -6.25 9. Do you have any plans to get surgury done on your eyes(prk, lasik, intacs, IOLs, etc) Nope, too risky, especially with my huge pupils. 10. Have you tried natural vision improvement? Oh why, yes I have! I have experienced a small, but measurable improvement. Still improving and still working on it! I know tons of others who have improved, most achieving between 1 and 2 diopter improvement! I'll bite. 1) Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? 15 years old. 20/60 in both eyes. -1.75 OD & -2.00 OS (I have my old records) 2) Your current pescription(if you also have astigmastim, state it) and vision without correction(UCVA) and vision with correction(BCVA)? -2.50 OD & OS with no correction for astigmatism. When I started vision therapy I was -3.50,-.50x180 OD & -4.25,-.50x180 OS. 3) Do you wear glasses or contacts, preference? Glasses &/or disposeable soft lenses. Preference is to not have to bother with either as both are inconvenient and down right annoying. In fact, I tossed my last pair of glasses in a fit of violent anger after accidently poking myself in the eye with the frame. 4) What things are you able to do without correction? I can do anything, but obviously certain things are not smart to do without correction (i.e. driving) and some stuff is easier to do with corrected distance vision. 5. How close do you need to hold things to see without lenses? It depends on what I am doing. 6. What age did you start wearing lenses full time and why? I was 15 and wore them because I was told I needed to if I wanted to see clearly. 7) How old are you now and male/female? Last time I felt, I was a 37 year old male 8) How does your vision compare with other family members? Younger brother is the same original prescription as I am. Father, age 80, has a lesser myopic prescription then me but no need for glasses for close work. Mom has clear distance vision but needs readers. 9) Do you have any plans to get surgury done on your eyes(prk, lasik, intacs, IOLs, etc) I have thought about it many times and may do it one day. All my expreiences with laser vision correction find me encountering centers more concerned about making money then addressing me as an indvidual. 10. Have you tried natural vision improvement? I am the poster child for natural vision therapy. It has helped more so with the strabismus, emmotropia, and visual acuity of my visual system. This increase in visual efficiency has reduced my pseudo-myopia. Now if someone has a way to naturally correct axial-length myopia I'm all ears. Thanks for your replies! Bass, -1.75 and 20/60 isnt bad! This means at your -2.5 you arent much worse, right? As for lasik I see no reason for you to get it and in my opinion you arent likley to be happy if you get it, especially since you wont reduce dependancy on glasses. You are my role model on NVI! Andrea, you are quite fortunate your pescription is fairly low. Have you considered natural vision improvement? Bass improved ALOT! Do you know Tresa? Her pescription is just mind boggling! Even her astigmastim is very severe in one eye and moderate in the other! Most optometrists have never seen anything like it. I know one who has been in practice for 20 years and the highest he has seen was -19 and that was not long after he started optometry! He rarely even sees patients with myopia in the low teens! Contacts, especially RGP are very popular for the highly myopic as it gives much better BCVA with little, if any minification and disortion glasses give. With her pescription, she would only be able to see an inch and a half past her eyes and see nothing past her nose! How well does she correct with glasses? RGP contacts? What *can* she see without correction? I am really curious! How far can she count fingers(if even possible) what about hand motions? As for IOLs, there is phakic IOLs but she wont get a full correction with them and still need glasses for the remainder of her myopia and astigmastim. Stick to RGPs for now. Ace, -2.5 still sucks. I am still myopic and still require corrective eyeware if I want to see clearly in the distance. I can function reasonably well without but it is still inhibiting. It has been theorized that most of my improvement in my vision has come from an improvement in my acuity. Minimization of my strabismus and improvement in my focal ability and emmotropia (+sp?) has reduced my pseudo-myopia. If I can not get any more improvement that would theoretically mean the remainder of my myopia is axial-length. Since the only person in the world that seems to think -2.0 is an acceptable form of myopia, the rest of us who don't like it want to know how we can improve on that without corrective lenses. Bass, its all relative. -2.5 may suck but nowhere near as much as -4.5! We both need correction but I need it much more than you do. The fact you go without glasses much of the time is testament to the fact. I will agree in your case -2.5 is functional but inhibiting. In my case, its borderline non functional. I think some myopia like -2 is acceptable only because of something called presbyopia. If I didnt have presbyopia(ophthalmologist's words) I would be much less tolerating of any myopia. Again, why dont you overcorrect yourself to simulate presbyopia? It really sucks not seeing clearly from near. Mine isnt even that bad but I know itll get worse as I get older. I dont "need" -4.5 diopters but something like -2 is ideal to keep you out of readers. Plano is fine for far distance but anything closer starts to get blurrier and blurrier. I am going to improve my vision as much as I can and get rid of all my pseudomyopia. I probably have around -3.5 of axial myopia but I hope its less. I will wait for something based on the principle of orthoK to come around but longer lasting(see my thread on epithelium thinning) and get my myopia down to about a -2. This is enough for the best "balance" between near and distance vision and I can always wear glasses for driving or watching movies, no biggie. > its all relative. -2.5 may suck but nowhere near as much as -4.5! We > both need correction but I need it much more than you do. Nyah, nyah... you win! -MT Mike Tyner excitedly shouted: "Nyah, nyah... you win!" Do I get free orthoK then? ;) Tresa smiled: "it would be difficult to walk around in unfamiliar places, though in the rare event i walk around at home w/o glasses i don't bump into furniture." Than that -11 lady must be really clumsy or wandering around at night without glasses where its too dark to see much anyway. At -23.5 in your better eye with some astigmastim, youd see many times worse than that lady. I estimate 20/12,000! You must be really good at navigating! "as long as the retinas are healthy it is possible to correct myopia. assuming ~50% minification, this still leaves an otherwise normally sighted person around 20/30, which is where i think i am, and good enough to drive in most states." Of course. Although the majority of super myopes experience retina problems among other problems. If you correct to 20/30(at least 20/40 since your legal to drive) thats extremely good and would be 20/20 without minification. Is that what you get with RGP contacts? "i drive, and have had no accidents or any close calls that i know of." Your also a good driver! :) "my eyes are still progressing, and likely will until i am out of my teens." well your 19 now so I sure hope the progression has slowed to a crawl. Have you done any measures to slow progression such as use your old pair of glasses for reading? How did your eyes get so bad and so quickly? Thanks for your time and answers! If you have any questions for me, go ahead :) > well your 19 now so I sure hope the progression has slowed to a crawl. > Have you done any measures to slow progression such as use your old > pair of glasses for reading? How did your eyes get so bad and so > quickly? Thanks for your time and answers! If you have any questions > for me, go ahead :) Ace your innocent naivety never ceases to amaze me: reading glasses aren't going to slow the progression of a -25 myope. I can only imagine the excitement you feel when you communicate directly with people with myopia of various degrees. How does it come to be that an uneducated 24 year old can become so obsessed with the measurement & correction of vision? Dom I didnt say reading glasses, I said she can use her old pair of glasses which would undercorrect her and use that for reading, eating and other near work. I dont know if she wants to bother with that as when your -25 it makes no difference if your eyes get worse in how well you see without correction. However escalating myopia will further stretch and thin the retina=bad! Also her glasses will get even thicker and minify more! >I am doing a survey for fun and research on nearsightedness. Any >responses [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >others who have improved, most achieving between 1 and 2 diopter >improvement! 1) 18. I got -1 2) -2.50 & -3 3) Both, but contacts give unobstructed vision so I prefer that 4) Everything - as long as I don't want to see too much detail! Seriously, I potter around at home without and happily read, will even go for a walk but risk ignoring people I know 5) Arm's length is okay 6) I never really did, I just got contacts 7) Female 35 8) Only presyopia in my family. I'm the odd one out. 9) Never 10) Never thought about it. Hmph. As usual, nobody gives a damn about the farsighted.  SignatureCheers, Bev oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo "I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing quite well for themselves." -- Emo Philips > 1. Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? 2 and something like -8 > 2. Your current pescription(if you also have astigmastim, state it) OD -23.50 -2.50x43 OS -25.50 -5.50x92 > 3. Do you wear glasses or contacts, preference? Glasses. > 4. What things are you able to do without correction? nothing > 5. How close do you need to hold things to see without lenses? my nose, and even this is not good > 6. What age did you start wearing lenses full time and why? 2 > 7. How old are you now and male/female? female 19 > 8. How does your vision compare with other family members? dont know was adopted > 9. Do you have any plans to get surgury done on your eyes(prk, lasik, > intacs, IOLs, etc) IOLs hopefully > 10. Have you tried natural vision improvement? yeah right, like a few dioptres is really useful! GMAB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit me at Yahoo! http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti >> 1. Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? > 2 and something like -8 >> 2. Your current pescription(if you also have astigmastim, state it) > OD -23.50 -2.50x43 OS -25.50 -5.50x92 Tresa I have been an optometrist for 14 years and not only have I never seen a patient with your myopia, I have never heard first hand of it either - congratulations, you take the cake! Do you wear contacts sometimes? Dom yeah i get this reaction a lot...and even scare most opticians! i don't wear contacts > >> 1. Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? > > 2 and something like -8 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dom "Tresa" <kelly_lenti@yahoo.com> wrote in message Visit me at Yahoo! http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti You look really good in your fat eyeglasses! Maybe the next killer style? -- Dicky Myopia? If you've got it, flaunt it! > "Tresa" <kelly_lenti@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Visit me at Yahoo! > http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti > > You look really good in your fat eyeglasses! yeah right.... Thanks for your replies! Bass, -1.75 and 20/60 isnt bad! This means at your -2.5 you arent much worse, right? As for lasik I see no reason for you to get it and in my opinion you arent likley to be happy if you get it, especially since you wont reduce dependancy on glasses. You are my role model on NVI! Andrea, you are quite fortunate your pescription is fairly low. Have you considered natural vision improvement? Bass improved ALOT! Do you know Tresa? Her pescription is just mind boggling! Even her astigmastim is very severe in one eye and moderate in the other! Most optometrists have never seen anything like it. I know one who has been in practice for 20 years and the highest he has seen was -19 and that was not long after he started optometry! He rarely even sees patients with myopia in the low teens! Contacts, especially RGP are very popular for the highly myopic as it gives much better BCVA with little, if any minification and disortion glasses give. With her pescription, she would only be able to see an inch and a half past her eyes and see nothing past her nose! How well does she correct with glasses? RGP contacts? What *can* she see without correction? I am really curious! How far can she count fingers(if even possible) what about hand motions? As for IOLs, there is phakic IOLs but she wont get a full correction with them and still need glasses for the remainder of her myopia and astigmastim. Stick to RGPs for now. > yeah i get this reaction a lot...and even scare most opticians! > > i don't wear contacts Why don't you wear contacts? Dom > > yeah i get this reaction a lot...and even scare most opticians! > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dom i've never really been able to. my astigmatism is too severe, i can't read anything with them, things jump and twitch and i get seasick, they really hurt my eyes, and i am totally afraid of them falling out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit me at Yahoo! http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti I would think RGP contacts do a great job with the astigmastim and if not, a thin pair of glasses over them to correct the remainder of the astigmastim? Whats your BCVA with contacts? glasses? What *can* you see without correction? How far can you count fingers? hand motions? very curious to the vision of a myope over -20! See my previous replies a couple posts above this one. > I would think RGP contacts do a great job with the astigmastim and if > not, a thin pair of glasses over them to correct the remainder of the > astigmastim? Whats your BCVA with contacts? glasses? What *can* you see > without correction? How far can you count fingers? hand motions? very > curious to the vision of a myope over -20! See my previous replies a > couple posts above this one. what difference does it make if i can see fingers at 3 inches or six inches? i have no idea. i see with glasses and don't see w/o glasses, and that is really all i know. i find it funny that anyone should really care about uncorrected acuity, since any of us who wear glasses full time cannot really function in life w/o them. who cares how far a hand has to be from the eyes until they are indistinct? what incremental advantage do i have (or not have) if i can count fingers a foot away from my eyes? none. with glasses? well, not 20/20, but i can get around without bumping into too many people. itw, i can do most things that normally signted poeple can, though i have had to give up my dreams of being a fighter pilot (j/k). y Tresa, It was just something I am curious about. You can hold your own fingers and find out. I was talking to this -11 sperhical equivalent lady who couldnt see her own fingers held at arm's length. I had a hard time believing her vision was so blurry. She couldnt even walk around the house without glasses or she would bump into furniture and walls! I know you dont see without glasses, but theres different amounts of "dont see" I am trying to get an idea of the blur someone with your myopia experiences. The best simulation ive done was with several pairs of reading glasses but this -11 lady said its not the same, for one those reading glasses magnify, especially when stacked. She says while I do experience lots of blur, everything is bigger and closer, similar to weak binoculars. The minification and disortion of your over -20 glasses with cylindar in them would make 20/20 impossible. Are you legal to drive or otherwise pass the DMV for 20/40? From my research, it appears most extremely highly myopic individuals have reduced correctable vision. I know a -17 who sees 20/40 with myodiscs. I know one optometrist who has tested a few myopes -15 to -18 and said they corrected to 20/40 to 20/50. Are your eyes still getting worse? What can be done to slow or halt its progression? How bad can it get? Wont there be problems with the retina? > Tresa, It was just something I am curious about. You can hold your own > fingers and find out. I was talking to this -11 sperhical equivalent [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I do experience lots of blur, everything is bigger and closer, similar > to weak binoculars. it would be difficult to walk around in unfamiliar places, though in the rare event i walk around at home w/o glasses i don't bump into furniture. > The minification and disortion of your over -20 glasses with cylindar > in them would make 20/20 impossible. Are you legal to drive or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > tested a few myopes -15 to -18 and said they corrected to 20/40 to > 20/50. as long as the retinas are healthy it is possible to correct myopia. assuming ~50% minification, this still leaves an otherwise normally sighted person around 20/30, which is where i think i am, and good enough to drive in most states. i am sure there are times when my vision drops below the legal limit to drive, but this is likely true for a lot of progressive myopes. i drive, and have had no accidents or any close calls that i know of. > Are your eyes still getting worse? What can be done to slow or halt its > progression? How bad can it get? Wont there be problems with the > retina? my eyes are still progressing, and likely will until i am out of my teens. i don't know the answers to your other questions, but i suspect anyone who claims to will either have answers in terms of probabilities or be one of those whose medical understanding is based on religion. t > i can get around without bumping into too many people. itw, i can do > most things that normally signted poeple can, though i have had to > give up my dreams of being a fighter pilot (j/k). You could be an icon for Pearl Vision. The one they got is a total fake. http://www.pearlevision.com/images/espots/epsot_home_lg.jpg -- Dicky yeah i get this reaction a lot, and instill fear in the hearts of well-intended optometrists and opticians. other than that i get by just fine with glasses, and have only a couple of times tried contacts. maybe IOLs someday. tre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit me at Yahoo! http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti > > 1. Age at which you got your first pair of glasses and how strong? > 2 and something like -8 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 3. Do you wear glasses or contacts, preference? > Glasses. I was very myopic for years. I was resistant, but finally moved to contacts. They work much better for many severely myopic people. If you haven't tried them, I would suggest that you talk to your OD about them at your next visit. They will change how your face looks and they don't fog up when you do sports. > > 4. What things are you able to do without correction? > nothing I always found that I actually slept better without glasses. :-) > > 5. How close do you need to hold things to see without lenses? > my nose, and even this is not good It always freaked me out that I could focus on the end of my nose. > > 6. What age did you start wearing lenses full time and why? > 2 I didn't start until fourth grade, and it was *way* too late. I had no idea what the world looked until I got glasses! > > 7. How old are you now and male/female? > female 19 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > intacs, IOLs, etc) > IOLs hopefully Perhaps they are a plan. I would try contacts first. Unless you already have accommodative problems, IOLs will cause you to lose *all* accommodation. That's OK for us older folk, because we already lost it. > > 10. Have you tried natural vision improvement? > yeah right, like a few dioptres is really useful! GMAB [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Visit me at Yahoo! > http://profiles.yahoo.com/kelly_lenti SignatureDan Abel dabel@sonic.net Petaluma, California, USA
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