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Beware people trying to SELL you things [Otis]
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Neil Brooks - 26 Apr 2006 16:27 GMT [The moderator on www.visionimprovementsite.com has seen fit to delete this post from his commercial website, so I'll just give it a place to rest here and just refer people over :-D]
Otis Brown has tried a hundred different ways to get you to be suspicious of MY motivation here, but let's look at his.
He continues to claim that his "book" is available for free on the Internet, but it isn't. Only a select few chapters are. If you want the book, he graciously provides his name, address, and phone number, along with instructions for you to send him $24.95 for a copy of the book.
http://www.i-see.org/otis_brown/
So think about it: Otis has posted AT LEAST 5,000 times to various Internet sites, trying to get people to subscribe to his theory. In many--if not most--of those posts, he refers people to his website where--wonder of all wonders--they find a link to the page above, offering to sell the book for twenty-five bucks.
I used to think that it was simply a pathological issue that arose from his failed dream to fly commercial jets, but it's worse than that. It's the oldest reason that people do anything in this world: greed.
Consider wisely when you pay attention to Otis's postings. It's easier for him to try to hammer home his outdated, disproven stories than it is to admit mistakes, go back to the drawing board, and revise the book. His retirement income may depend on your belief.
Steve Leung is trying to sell books. Fred Deakins is trying to sell commercial products, too. Am I? Is Dr. Retinula?
HANWEN [the site's moderator]: If you're going to delete this FACTUAL post, then are you ALSO going to delete EVERY post where OTIS insults me, trying to get people to ignore me? At least mine has the ring of truth behind it.
So, Otis: that only leaves ten of eleven questions left unanswered.
Liar.
The Central Scrutinizer - 26 Apr 2006 16:44 GMT >has seen fit to delete this post from his commercial website, Maybe HANWEN's just getting kickbacks. Is he a medical person with an ethical presence, or a sysadmin of a commercial site?
Neil Brooks - 26 Apr 2006 16:56 GMT > >has seen fit to delete this post from his commercial website, > > Maybe HANWEN's just getting kickbacks. Is he a medical person with an > ethical presence, or a sysadmin of a commercial site? I was thinking the same thing. I think he leans more toward SysAd, but that doesn't mean he's NOT getting a check :-/
The Central Scrutinizer - 26 Apr 2006 17:09 GMT >more toward SysAd, Well, if he's a sysadmin, my vote is that he'd be _more_ likely to establish some kind of arrangement like that. I mentioned the 'ethical presence' point because I'd think it a lot less likely that someone who's an OD first and an SA second would compromise his impartiality and integrity for a couple of bucks.
If he's both - well, who knows. Gotta wonder, though.
BD
otisbrown@pa.net - 26 Apr 2006 18:39 GMT Dear Second-opnion friends,
Subject: Contrary methods.
You should first verify that PREVENTION with the plus (at the threshold) is offered by second-opnion ODs.
Read:
www.chinamyopia.org
It is true that both a M.O. OD and the S.O. OD will CHARGE you for there services.
It will be up to you to decide if you wish to use the preventive method of the plus.
But once you use the minus, you can count on stair-case myopia from the minus
(Ref: Oakley-Young study)
I publish eight papers in annual meetings of the IEEE/EMBS.
Let me repeat: The electronic copy of my book is no I-SEE for free.
I do not "sell" the book anymore, and I asked Alex Eulenberg to remove my address and phone number from the book, as well as the price.
That will be accomplished in due course.
But if I EVER sell a book, (hard copy) you must remember that I PAID to have it published, and have no intention of giving that away for free.
Sci.med.vision is obviously an majority-opinion site.
There is no doubt that the "minus" is VERY EASY to apply, and works instantly.
If that is what you wish, I sure as hell am not going to stand in your way.
But if you wish a SECOND-OPNION discussion, I would suggest going to:
www.i-see.org
and join the Bates second-opinion review of these issues.
Best,
Otis
> >more toward SysAd, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > BD Quick - 26 Apr 2006 18:42 GMT > It is true that both a M.O. OD and the S.O. OD > will CHARGE you for there services.
> Let me repeat: The electronic copy > of my book is no I-SEE for free. ...parse error...
-Quick
Neil Brooks - 26 Apr 2006 21:09 GMT > > It is true that both a M.O. OD and the S.O. OD > > will CHARGE you for there services. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ...parse error... Google Translate choked on it to.
Anybody? Bueller??
The Central Scrutinizer - 26 Apr 2006 18:59 GMT >I publish eight papers in annual meetings of the IEEE/EMBS. I bet if you look close, you'll see that each paper is actually a photocopy of the previous paper.
The Central Scrutinizer - 26 Apr 2006 22:55 GMT >Let me repeat: The electronic copy >of my book is no I-SEE for free. Only thing I can see is a web extract of a couple of chapters, and an ad for the full book for $25.
Quick - 26 Apr 2006 23:05 GMT >> Let me repeat: The electronic copy >> of my book is no I-SEE for free. > > Only thing I can see is a web extract of a couple of > chapters, and an ad for the full book for $25. What was the name? Maybe the hard copy "I-SEE" costs $25 and the electronic copy "no I-SEE" is free? and understandably so...
-Quick
The Central Scrutinizer - 26 Apr 2006 23:12 GMT >What was the name? Ah, I expect he's just flinging more horsesh*t - he'll blame you for not being able to find it, then go off on his usual parrot routine.
What a yard sale.
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 27 Apr 2006 01:21 GMT "What was the name? Maybe the hard copy "I-SEE" costs $25 and the electronic copy "no I-SEE" is free? and understandably so..."
Otis said it costs money to publish and print the hardcover copy of his book so hes selling the book based on material cost. Its like me giving the game for free but charging a little money for the disc the game comes on!
Quick - 27 Apr 2006 01:34 GMT > "What was the name? > Maybe the hard copy "I-SEE" costs $25 and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but charging a little money for the disc the game comes > on! Do you have a complete electronic copy? No one else seems to be able to find it. Just a couple of chapters.
-Quick
otisbrown@pa.net - 27 Apr 2006 04:54 GMT Dear Quick,
Suject: The content of "How to Avoid Nearsighedness".
The nature of the book (preventing a the development of a negative refractive state for the natural eye) is described in Chapters 1 through 3, and the last Chaper.
That should be enough for your understanding.
The technical part chapters 4 through 10, are the result of engineering analys submitted to IEEE/EMBS anual conferences.
If you can not "figure it out" in the ebook then I doubt that the engineering part of the book would be of any value to you.
Otis
Quick - 27 Apr 2006 08:45 GMT > Dear Quick, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > of the book would be of any value > to you. Are you implying that chapters 4 through 10 are of no value? Since anyone should be able to "figure it out" from the first 3 chapters? Or is this the same ploy I see on the infomercials on TV. Some vague statements for free but if you want to actually see if there is any value you have to pay first?
P.S. submitting something to the IEEE/EMBS annual conferences does not imbue value on it. Anyone can submit anything.
-Quick
The Central Scrutinizer - 27 Apr 2006 15:23 GMT >If you can not "figure it out" in the ebook then I doubt that the engineering part of the book >would be of any value to you. Horseshit. You said quite explicitly earlier that the e-book was on the site for free. You did not say 'an extract', nor 'some chapters'. If the full book had been available, it might have given people a chance to understand the substrate of your premises a bit more clearly.
This is bait-and-switch at its worst. Either make the entire book available on the site, or do NOT say that the book _is_ available.
Just another lie, to add to the list. I think Neil's right - You are a greedy old liar, trying to baffle the populace with your gibberish in hopes of making book sales.
Prove me wrong. Make the ENTIRE book available on the site, as you said you did.
BD
Neil Brooks - 28 Apr 2006 21:30 GMT > >If you can not "figure it out" in the ebook then I doubt that the engineering part of the book >would be of any value to you. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Prove me wrong. Make the ENTIRE book available on the site, as you said > you did. http://www.palantir.net/2001/tma1/wav/cantdo.wav
Neil Brooks - 28 Apr 2006 21:32 GMT Try this one:
http://datacore.sciflicks.com/2001/sounds/2001_cant_do_that.wav
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