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Driving restrictions for persons affected by Amblyopia

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sanju - 15 Mar 2006 20:54 GMT
Can a person with Amblyopia drive car in USA?
CatmanX - 15 Mar 2006 21:43 GMT
Yes. You only neeed one eye to pass a driving test. There may be
restrictions on the other eye, but assuming your good eye sees 20/20,
you will have no problems.

dr grant
sanju - 15 Mar 2006 23:45 GMT
Thanks a lot Dr. Grant for the prompt reply. Recently I visited DOL in
Bellevue WA and they told that an Amblyopic needs a fitness letter from
eye specialist for the lazy eye. Is it true?
Mike Tyner - 16 Mar 2006 01:20 GMT
> Thanks a lot Dr. Grant for the prompt reply. Recently I visited DOL in
> Bellevue WA and they told that an Amblyopic needs a fitness letter from
> eye specialist for the lazy eye. Is it true?

That would vary by state; you may have to ask a doctor in the state of
Washington, or call the state police who supervise the licensing program.

In my state, you can pass the vision test once, then go blind and get a new,
valid license every four years. They're very nice - they'll hold your
seeing-eye dog while you get your picture taken.

-MT
CatmanX - 16 Mar 2006 11:54 GMT
LOL, you don't have to get your photo taken until 10 years here and
then they have private providers to take the photos, who don't care if
you have a guide dog or not.

dr grant
Quick - 16 Mar 2006 18:27 GMT
> LOL, you don't have to get your photo taken until 10
> years here and then they have private providers to take
> the photos, who don't care if you have a guide dog or not.

heh, that might get you on the tonight show. Valid
driver's license with picture of you wearing shades
with cane and guide dog.

"Speeding and red light, officer? The damned dog did it!"

-Quick
Dan Abel - 15 Mar 2006 23:25 GMT
> Can a person with Amblyopia drive car in USA?

The US is very much into the concept of "state rights".  Each state sets
their own laws, including those about driving vehicles.  My wife is
blind in one eye due to amblyopia, and has a driving license, although
she had to take a special driving test to get it.

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Dan Abel
dabel@sonic.net
Petaluma, California, USA

sanju - 18 Mar 2006 20:13 GMT
Did your wife have to pay more insurance per month because she is
amblyopic?
Mark A - 18 Mar 2006 22:34 GMT
> Did your wife have to pay more insurance per month because she is
> amblyopic?

Persons with amblyopia do not pay more auto insurance in the US.
Dan Abel - 19 Mar 2006 01:28 GMT
> Did your wife have to pay more insurance per month because she is
> amblyopic?

No.  Of course, they didn't ask and she didn't volunteer the information.

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Dan Abel
dabel@sonic.net
Petaluma, California, USA

Ann - 19 Mar 2006 21:34 GMT
>> Did your wife have to pay more insurance per month because she is
>> amblyopic?
>
>No.  Of course, they didn't ask and she didn't volunteer the information.

Don't anybody try that in the UK.  I used to ride a motorbike and the
insurance was far more for a one eyed person than normal.  If I hadn't
declared it, I wouldn't have been covered.

I recently read that one eyed people in the states have 7 times more
road traffic accidents than two eyed people.  I can't imagine that
you're supposed to keep it secret.

Ann
Mark A - 19 Mar 2006 22:26 GMT
> Don't anybody try that in the UK.  I used to ride a motorbike and the
> insurance was far more for a one eyed person than normal.  If I hadn't
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>
> Ann

A person with amblyopia does not have one eye. The lazy eye still provides
the equivalent of peripheral vision in most cases. I don't think those stats
you cited were compiled with people who have amblyopia.
Ann - 21 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT
>> Don't anybody try that in the UK.  I used to ride a motorbike and the
>> insurance was far more for a one eyed person than normal.  If I hadn't
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>the equivalent of peripheral vision in most cases. I don't think those stats
>you cited were compiled with people who have amblyopia.

Probably not, but it's still a visual impairment that ought to be
declared.  It's not only about peripheral vision.  I don't know what
insurers are like over there, but here they will do anything to get
out of paying out on a claim and non declaration of a visual
impairment is playing right into their hands.

Ann
Mark A - 21 Mar 2006 03:12 GMT
> Probably not, but it's still a visual impairment that ought to be
> declared.  It's not only about peripheral vision.  I don't know what
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>
> Ann

I have been insured by the same company for 28 years and they have never
asked me, and I don't think it needs to be declared. My driving record
during that time has been way above average with only 1 minor accident.

About 20 years ago the state (who issued drivers licenses) tested both eyes
during the eye exam, but that is no longer the case.
Dan Abel - 21 Mar 2006 05:07 GMT
> >> Don't anybody try that in the UK.  I used to ride a motorbike and the
> >> insurance was far more for a one eyed person than normal.  If I hadn't
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> >> road traffic accidents than two eyed people.  I can't imagine that
> >> you're supposed to keep it secret.

> Probably not, but it's still a visual impairment that ought to be
> declared.  It's not only about peripheral vision.  I don't know what
> insurers are like over there, but here they will do anything to get
> out of paying out on a claim and non declaration of a visual
> impairment is playing right into their hands.

It's no secret.  Both my wife and I don't use our right eyes.  We both
have forms signed by our OD's on file with the State of California
Department of Motor Vehicles stating that, and that it isn't
correctable.  We both subsequently took driving tests with a DMV
examiner to prove that we could drive with just one eye.  

We have valid driver's licenses, with the complete understanding that we
see out of one eye only.

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Dan Abel
dabel@sonic.net
Petaluma, California, USA

Ann - 23 Mar 2006 00:50 GMT
>> >> Don't anybody try that in the UK.  I used to ride a motorbike and the
>> >> insurance was far more for a one eyed person than normal.  If I hadn't
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>We have valid driver's licenses, with the complete understanding that we
>see out of one eye only.

We're not talking about driving licences we're talking about
insurance.  And I have no idea what happens in the states but I do
know what happens here.  Not being asked about a certain disorder is
no defence here.  Non disclosure is non disclosure.

Ann
Mark A - 23 Mar 2006 03:17 GMT
> We're not talking about driving licences we're talking about
> insurance.  And I have no idea what happens in the states but I do
> know what happens here.  Not being asked about a certain disorder is
> no defence here.  Non disclosure is non disclosure.
>
> Ann

I think that it has been made very clear that it does not work that way in
the USA.

Even in cases where an insurance company in the USA does charge more for
amblyopia (which I am not aware of), the insurance company can only demand
retroactive payment of the additional premiums (probably only for the last
insurable period), they cannot deny a claim (unless they can prove fraud).
But I am not sure if they can even demand retroactive premiums if they don't
at least ask about these issues in the application for insurance.

Since driving records are publicly available in the US, insurance companies
depend more on your accident and traffic ticket rate than on medical issues
(in most cases). They also do the underwriting based on other factors such
as miles driven weekly, the exact model and year of the car, age of driver,
martial status (in some cases for men under 25), location, years insured
with current company, and some other factors.

Are drivers in the UK insured by the government? That may explain the
non-disclosure issue. In the USA, insurance is a private business and it is
up to the insurance company to ask consumers about the underwriting factors
that they need to determine your premiums.

The other thing that you wrong about (in previous posts you have made) is
comparing accident rates of people with only one eye with accident rates for
people with amblyopia. That is an incorrect use of statistics since the
conditions are not the same.
Ann - 01 Apr 2006 21:02 GMT
>Are drivers in the UK insured by the government?

ROFL.. No.  Not everything in the UK is government run.

Ann
A Lieberman - 01 Apr 2006 23:11 GMT
> Probably not, but it's still a visual impairment that ought to be
> declared.  It's not only about peripheral vision.  

What's the impairment????  There is none in my case

I am nearsighted with 3 diopter difference between eyes, amblyopic (right
eye is my dominant eye)

I drive, fly a plane just as good as a person without amblyopia

Allen
 
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