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16 month old with cataract in left eye

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aruneben@gmail.com - 02 Mar 2006 00:26 GMT
Hi All,

My son was diagnosed with cataract in his left eye, a week ago by an
eye specialist. and another pediatric opthomologist confirmed it
yesterday.

i cannot see proof that he is loosing vision on one of his eye. are
there any tests that we can perform on a 16 month old to see if he is
loosing vision on one of his eye.

the doctor has informed that he has to perform another test under
anesthesia in two weeks and then perform a surgery right then if
needed.

my son does not show any symtoms other than occasional cross eyes when
looking at objects. he shoots the basketball extremely well from 1 to
two feet. reads books and identifies objects in the book.

is there any chance i can wait couple of years and monitor him
monthly/weekly, so that we can perform surgery in couple of years when
the kid can communicate.
concerned parent - 02 Mar 2006 00:52 GMT
i have been writing to this post for a couple of weeks (20/60 with -11.50
retinoscope). the doctor i have last seen thinks my daughter (almost three)
might have cataracts in both eyes but can not be certain yet. she sees about
20/1500 in the middle but about 20/80 or so at the outer edges of the eye. my
point is i have been doing research and surgery will be almost mandatory if
they think it will get in the way of vision at all. at this point your son
should see at best about 20/60 for his age. if anything hinders him he could
develop amblyopia in that eye. an adult can wait for a little while to it
impairs vision but a child can not. at that age about the only thing that i
know the doctors can do is use the retinoscope to see if the the vision is
getting worse. from what i have read the cataract surgery has a high sucess
rate but there are always risks. i know the doctors told me that if my
daughters lenses were taken out she will be farsighted. go for a second
opinion. they are not 100% sure what is wrong with my daughters eyes but know
the lenses are not right. one doctor says we should probably do surgery and
another says no.some of the people who are on this site are very helpful and
have alot more knowledge than me. they have all been a great help. good luck

>Hi All,
>
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>monthly/weekly, so that we can perform surgery in couple of years when
>the kid can communicate.
Dan Abel - 02 Mar 2006 02:49 GMT
> My son was diagnosed with cataract in his left eye, a week ago by an
> eye specialist. and another pediatric opthomologist confirmed it
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> there any tests that we can perform on a 16 month old to see if he is
> loosing vision on one of his eye.

My understanding is that cataract isn't too hard to diagnose.  If the
doctor can't see into the eye due to the clouding, then the patient
can't see out of it either.  

> is there any chance i can wait couple of years and monitor him
> monthly/weekly, so that we can perform surgery in couple of years when
> the kid can communicate.

Communication will be better, but still not good.  I would ask about
amblyopia.  

I am not a vision professional.  I have had cataract in both eyes, but
as an adult.  My wife has amblyopia and is blind in one eye.

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Petaluma, California, USA

Dom - 02 Mar 2006 12:05 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> monthly/weekly, so that we can perform surgery in couple of years when
> the kid can communicate.

The simplest test you can do would be for you to cover each of his eyes
in turn and watch his reaction. If he protests to you covering his
'good' eye that's a fair indication that the other eye is at least
blurry... but it's not a 100% definitive method.

If two ophthalmologists have said your son has cataract then that's
pretty clear cut. Cataracts aren't difficult for eye doctors to
diagnose. But there's often nothing visible to the casual observer until
the cataract becomes quite mature and dense. The proof that he is losing
vision in one eye is the fact that the cataract is present. The reason
he doesn't show any symptoms is because his other eye is 'covering' for
the cataract eye.

If your son occasionally goes cross eyed then this could be a sign that
his brain is already starting to ignore the eye with the cataract, and
this is a very good reason to have the surgery done. Delaying a few
weeks or even a couple of months mightn't be a big problem, but delaying
a couple of years could potentially be to the detriment of his vision
for his whole life.

Dom
LarryDoc - 02 Mar 2006 17:51 GMT
Regarding the information provided by Dom, below:  I agree and can add
only one thing:  The doctor will be able to determine if the cataract is
dense enough to affect your child's vision. With that information you
will be able to choose the correct treatment.

LB, O.D.

> > Hi All,
> >
> > My son was diagnosed with cataract in his left eye, a week ago by an
> > eye specialist. and another pediatric opthomologist confirmed it
> > yesterday.
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> The simplest test you can do would be for you to cover each of his eyes
> in turn and watch his reaction. If he protests to you covering his
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>
> Dom
aruneben@gmail.com - 02 Mar 2006 19:01 GMT
thanks for your responses.

if it is not dense, can we avoid surgery or is surgery the only answer.

has anyone heard of the medication that this site is selling.
http://www.cataract-eye-drops.ch

thanks
Arun

> Regarding the information provided by Dom, below:  I agree and can add
> only one thing:  The doctor will be able to determine if the cataract is
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> >
> > Dom
Mike Tyner - 02 Mar 2006 19:09 GMT
> if it is not dense, can we avoid surgery or is surgery the only answer.

Surgery is probably inevitable, it's just a matter of when.

There are no other recognized treatments for cataract. The only favorable
studies on N-acetyl carnosine were published by the manufacturer.

-MT, OD
aruneben@gmail.com - 03 Mar 2006 06:32 GMT
> > if it is not dense, can we avoid surgery or is surgery the only answer.
>
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>
> -MT, OD

The doctor said that it is developmental cataract which he developed
within the last 6 months. I have been looking at his new born pictures
as early as 1 to 2 months old and zooming it. and i have seen several
of them in which his left eye has a white cloud. the other eye seem to
be completely black, this leads me to believe that it may be congenital
cataract.

i remember reading some posts here where a user has said that his
parent/himself and his son have congenital cataract and they left it
alone till they were adults before performing surgery. is that true for
congenital cataract, can those with congenital cataract wait till
adulthood to perform surgery

thanks
Arun
Dom - 03 Mar 2006 08:34 GMT
> The doctor said that it is developmental cataract which he developed
> within the last 6 months. I have been looking at his new born pictures
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> thanks
> Arun

There's no technical/surgical reason that you couldn't wait until
adulthood for surgery, in fact it would be easier for the surgeon in
many ways... HOWEVER your son would always have a lazy eye with quite
blurred vision, even after successful cataract surgery as an adult. This
is because the brain has not learnt to process vision from that eye and
so it has learned to partly ignore that eye (in laymans terms). (More
correctly: amblyopia). Cataract surgery needs to be done as a young
child to give the brain a chance to learn to process vision from the
(ex-)cataract eye.

This is all assuming the cataract is bad enough to affect vision, which
most are, and which the doctor will know by just looking at the
cataract. If the cataract was very mild then there could be an argument
for leaving it there.

Dom
Mike Tyner - 03 Mar 2006 13:59 GMT
> i remember reading some posts here where a user has said that his
> parent/himself and his son have congenital cataract and they left it
> alone till they were adults before performing surgery. is that true for
> congenital cataract, can those with congenital cataract wait till
> adulthood to perform surgery

_Some_ congenital cataracts, like anterior polar cats, have amazingly little
effect on visual acuity, and the retina is not blurred when we look inside
the eye.

More commonly, though, congenital cataract in one eye devastates the vision
and will surely cause deep amblyopia if not removed.

When the kid can't see out of the eye (and we can't see in) then surgery is
appropriate, and sooner is better. Age 6 is somewhat tardy and age 9 is too
late.

-MT
concerned parent - 03 Mar 2006 20:45 GMT
to the group
if a lens is removed due to a cataract what is expected for vision. cuold a
person with cataract surgery wear contact if needed. what are the problems
that could arrive. one doctor told me that glaucoma could be an issue. the
other doctor said it could happen but is not likely.
>> i remember reading some posts here where a user has said that his
>> parent/himself and his son have congenital cataract and they left it
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>
>-MT
Dom - 04 Mar 2006 12:04 GMT
> to the group
> if a lens is removed due to a cataract what is expected for vision. cuold a
> person with cataract surgery wear contact if needed.

yes even a 16 month old can wear a contact lens.

what are the problems
> that could arrive. one doctor told me that glaucoma could be an issue. the
> other doctor said it could happen but is not likely.

even if your son did get glaucoma it's treatable, unlike amblyopia.

without knowing the details of how bad the cataract is, amblyopia is
probably guaranteed with no surgery, while glaucoma is only a risk with
surgery, and then a treatable risk at that.

dom
David Robins, MD - 05 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT
On 3/3/06 5:59 AM, in article
iZXNf.6634$5M6.1859@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Mike Tyner"
<mtyner@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> i remember reading some posts here where a user has said that his
>> parent/himself and his son have congenital cataract and they left it
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> -MT

Actually, for a true congenital cataract (at birth, fairly opaque), even 3
months is usually too later and leads to nystagmus and intractable
amblyopia. These are removed as urgent surgery at 1-3 weeks of age. Silicone
contacts are then usually placed immediately.

Juvenile cataracts, acquired later on, are removed when vision reaches the
point that the surgical risk is worth it. Generally around 20/60 - 20/70 or
so. The age is not usually an issue. The above ages mentioned are regarding
treatment of amblyopia, which depends also on how much the cataract-caused
vision had declined.
 
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