I have to say, I thought my post was pretty good, but nothing compared to that.
Just to keep in the rhythm of things. Beside, Neil gave me permission. I am taking it upon myself to do a repost
.
One thing I don't understand (there are many), why you dance around the subject when your student Gil asks you how much you  
improved you vision. It would seem to me, you would be glad to out of closet, and tell all of us.
If the "Otis therapy" works so well, I want to find out how it worked on the main primate. Or did it not work? hmmmm...

By the way Otis, was the pilot that crashed in Bowie today (Freeway airport in the 172) , wearing one of "your" plus lenses?
Or do you only deal with pilots flying F-14s or larger? I have an F-14 pinball machine, think you could pilot that?
If you want to go into simulation, actually stimulation - www.ipdb.org
I'm just up the street from Michaux. I guess, I will have to get tag for my ATV, so I can ride it there and not be in the Franklin County lock up with
you.

Ever thought of diving off High Rock?

Want to start a new thread of questions, that Otis and Gil won't answer?

                     OTIS
1. Is Dr. Brown related to you?
2. What is your double secret probation RX?
3. Where do you get these gullible primates? Do they come up from Ft. Detrick? I think the Teenage Mutant Turtles came from there.

As always, enjoy our pleasant
discussion about the dynamic
behavior of the "naturel" eye.  (HOGWASH)

                       GIL
1. What are the dimensions of your civil defense shelter?
2. Do you have any real friends? Or just keyboard good buddies?
3. Do you have a hobby, other than bugging us and disseminating sh.t?

When I read this, I wondered if someone hijacked Otis' account or if
Otis was drunk that day. Now I see its an imposer. Funny read but not
true. Even if it was true, Otis still has my support. Hes trying to
help others with myopia prevention and reduction for free!

Otis doesn't have to be drunk, to spiel out sh.t. It comes "naturel".
Otis has more garbage with him than Waste Management Inc.

I'm sure neither will answer the questions. They will re-write the questions, and spiel on.

Full steam ahead, Neil.

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Waynesboro?

I did not usually lock my doors, I will reconsider. Too close to Eastern side of Franklin County, over by the tourist trap.
If he showed up wearing his plus lenses, he would probably trip over the stuff in my house. Another law suit.
I would probably have the adjoining cell, then I would have to hear about it in person. Put me on suicide watch.
My Jack Russell hates raving quacks, I am protected.

Is there not a Dr. Brown that is an Optometrist next to the K-Mart?
(Near the new Lowe's and Wal-Mart), I wish they would open soon. What action should I take if I see you? Take a picture for the SMV folks?
Not a good idea, I would have to look through a minus lens to aim the camera.
Hide in the Pharmacy, near the reading glasses?
Maybe you could get a paying job in the optical department.
I would shy away from working on commission. They move to many minus lenses in there. Think if they only give a piece of take on minus lenses.
It could be a conspiracy, think if you could prove it. Doctor, optician, lab. Even better, take on Wal-Mart, make it a class action.
You could get that $172 billion, like California. The lawyers would get most of it. But, YOU would get the satisfaction. At least, it would pay for
that dial-up you've got. You could rave on here for a couple more years. You could buy out Dr. Brown's practice. The only store that will not let a
minus lens in the store. Oops, a patient walks in to have his glasses adjusted with minus lenses. Rip them off his face, and send him on his way.
You have done your good deed for the day. Don't worry, you can do the same thing tomorrow.

Is Dr. Brown a bitter relation? Maybe his own relative used that nasty "-" lens on Otis.
The nerve...I am surprised you did not sue him for malpractice, causing you to be able to see distant things again!
That is certainly a crime.

I hope he is not related to you. It would be such a shame for you to drag the good family name down with you in the crossbar motel.
BTW, that is not the telephone switch I am referring to. Sprint (LEC) doesn't use them anyway, they use a DMS.

Do people still sky dive over in Chambersburg? My friend used to dive over there, he had his minus contact lenses in.
He is 43 now, he got glasses when he was 18. His rx went from -1 to -1.75 in 25 years, he would not listen to me about the plus lens.
You could have met him personally at the airport, probably where you hang out looking for primates.
I heard their lease was running out on the airport use.
If those pilots used a plus lens, they could land on a tree, that would be smarts. Even worse, not being able to see the pull string.
So much for being a pilot.

Cheers
John

P.S. I suck at spelling, I don't care. I don't know how to have the computer check my spelling. So put up with my ramblings.
I will post anyway, no matter if I don't want to drive, or cannot grasp the art.

And I almost feel bad for the guy now. I teenk I bwoke him.

...ALMOST.

You'r wellcome pseudo monkey/chicken expert and many thanks in return.
For the first time in a long period the name Otis did make me laugh.

When I read this, I wondered if someone hijacked Otis' account or if
Otis was drunk that day. Now I see its an imposer. Funny read but not
true. Even if it was true, Otis still has my support. Hes trying to
help others with myopia prevention and reduction for free!

Dear Aceman,

These people think they are "wits".

Well yes they are.

They are 1/2 right.

Best,

Otis

Well, PClar,

I am happy you are pleased with youself.

In fact, these postings only confirm that fact that if I were
"dealing" with them, I would also put them in a chair,
have them read the Snellen, find a strong minus lens
and give them 20/20, 20/18, and 20/15 if at all possible.

After all -- that is EXACTLY what they want.  Why
bother with anything else.

Further, what put yourself at "risk" for them?  I would
not, nor would I expect you to do so either.

Enjoy!

Otis

Dear Yan,

Thanks for the suggestion.

Anyone who thinks that an OD could -- or should -- do
ANYTHING AT ALL for prevention should read
the previous 20 posts by the "wits" of sci.med.vision.

To me -- it does not matter what they do, or where they go.

But this is a complete demonstration as to "why" you
will never get any "suggestion" for prevention.

Even so, "prevention" remains a "choice", but
it is obvious that the person himself will
have to evaluate these issues, and
judge whether he has any interest
at all in prevention.  (Most people do not.)

But this is a "learning process", and perhaps
this is the hardest lesson to learn.

Best,

Otis

Dear Yan,

Given that these people have there ears stopped up
and there eyes "closed", and choose to use
my name falsely -- I see no point in any further
posts.

My sympathy is for those who COULD LEARN,
but that possibility is "gone' in the "noise"
of these people.

So I will leave thses issues, and wish
RT good luck with his son, and hope
he does not get to -10 diopters with
the risk of detached retina.

Truly you can not help a person who chooses
to shoot himself in the foot -- and I am certainly
never going to stop that process.

It would be like attempting to "stop" a kid
from becomming obese.  It is
not going to happen.

Best,

Otis

Dear Yan,

I see these bone-heads only want to talk to themselves.

Perhaps we should let them.  But now we understand
why approximately

85 percent of the Singapore highschool students are myopic.

and

93 percent of the medical students on Taiwan are myopic.

We all have the great ability to shoot ourselves in the foot -- and
can't understand the consequences of our actions.

But I certainly agree that any "work" of prevention is an
intrusion in a person's life.  If he does not want it -- the
he can join this incredible "lock-step" from a positive
refractive state to a negative state.

The funny part is that these people are intelligent!!!

Yes, but then intelligent people do dumb things.

And certainly prevention requires both motivation and
insight -- and for that reason is "individual" in its
direct application.

But forget the common "herd", they will be led
by Neil Brooks, Bob (The Central S.), and others.

Good luck to all,

Otis

Sorry, but I don't quite get what you're saying... are you saying that
if I want a straight answer I should make a joke out of him, or are you
saying that the reason I am not getting a straight answer is because I
make a joke out of him?

Apologies - your wording just isn't clear... ;)

CS