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Peter Holmes - 16 Feb 2006 22:14 GMT
My prescription is -2.75. My optician tells me I should wear glasses full
time with this prescription. I'm reluctant to. Is this commonplace?  Thanks
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 16 Feb 2006 22:21 GMT
consider natural vision improvement, especially the Bates method. You
may wear glasses for distance but KEEP THEM off for close work!!! I am
a -4 and I see much better from near WITHOUT glasses! I have done
natural vision improvement and went from a -5 to a -4 and still
improving!
Salmon Egg - 17 Feb 2006 02:08 GMT
On 2/16/06 2:15 PM, in article 5bfc0a1fff044@uwe, "Peter Holmes via
MedKB.com" <u12288@uwe> wrote:

> My prescription is -2.75. My optician tells me I should wear glasses full
> time with this prescription. I'm reluctant to. Is this commonplace?  Thanks

Don't take medical advice from an optician!. Could you have meant
optometrist or ophthalmologist?

Even so, as you can see from previous posts here, there is plenty of
controversy regarding such advice.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
Peter Holmes - 17 Feb 2006 21:05 GMT
Salmon Egg I'm in the UK, we only have opticians here! What else can I do but
take their advice!!

>On 2/16/06 2:15 PM, in article 5bfc0a1fff044@uwe, "Peter Holmes via
>MedKB.com" <u12288@uwe> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>-- Ferme le Bush
Salmon Egg - 18 Feb 2006 07:11 GMT
On 2/17/06 1:05 PM, in article 5c0801a527a96@uwe, "Peter Holmes via
MedKB.com" <u12288@uwe> wrote:

> Salmon Egg I'm in the UK, we only have opticians here! What else can I do but
> take their advice!!

It appears that there is no equivalent in the USA of your "optician." Here,
"optician" can mean many things ranging from a dispensing optician to one
who figures Schmidt corrector plates for fancy astronomical telescopes. It
never refers to a medical practitioner. What are the duties of your kind of
optician?

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
otisbrown@pa.net - 17 Feb 2006 03:55 GMT
Dear Peter,

You will get two opinions.

The "second opinion" is by
Professor David Guyton (JHU)
that you keep that minus off,
unless absolutly necessary.

Make your choice accordingly.

Otis
A Lieberman - 18 Feb 2006 01:43 GMT
> Dear Peter,
>
> You will get two opinions.

Dear Peter,

Please disregard Otis's posting.  He is not in the medical profession, nor
in any position to give medical advice.

Thank you!

Allen\
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 17 Feb 2006 04:38 GMT
ask your eye doctor.  do not take advise from kooks over the internet
like otisbrown and acemanvx.

i am an eye doctor myself, but you should discuss your question with
your own eye doctor.  nevertheless my recommendation is this-- if you
want to see clearly in the distance (driving, watching TV from a
distance, etc.) then wear your glasses.  if you want to see things
close to you (read a book, etc.) then either take them off or leave
them on.  it doesn't matter.  whichever is most convenient.  there is
no detriment or gain from wearing your glasses full time, and there is
no detriment or gain from taking them off to read.  the only effect
they have is to help you see in the distance when they are on.  and
there is absolutely no controversy about those points.  the controversy
is in the minds of the untrained uneducated trolls who continue to post
in this forum.
Bassslapper - 17 Feb 2006 13:52 GMT
Speak to your optician about it but commons sense should prevail here.
You should need them for dirving, everything else is a matter of
choice, as long as safety is not compromised. My prescription is about
the same as yours and I never wear my glasses unless driving or
watching a movie. I find no need for them otherwise but that is just
me. I hate wearing corrective eyeware and the hassles accompanying
having to do so so my preference is to forgo the corrective eyeware
whenever possible.

You should also consider some kind of visual therapy to see if you can
reduce your prescription and improve upon the myopia. I can only speak
for my own experience in that I have reduced my prescrption 1 diopter,
probably from training the visual system to be more effiecient in
processing information. Some people on this site will tell you therapy
will not help and I can only tell you what has worked for me so far but
it cannot hurt to check into it.
Peter Holmes - 17 Feb 2006 21:10 GMT
Bassslapper
Are you really happy with your vision without glasses except for  driving? I
need glasses at night even for walking down the street, if I want to see
where I'm going that is, but during the day I can get by.
My partner thinks my vision is cr*p and teases me about it. That doesn't make
me ready for wearing 24/7 though.

Is it likely some optical professionals just more keen on making sure all
their patients have20/20 vision?

>Speak to your optician about it but commons sense should prevail here.
>You should need them for dirving, everything else is a matter of
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>will not help and I can only tell you what has worked for me so far but
>it cannot hurt to check into it.
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 17 Feb 2006 22:54 GMT
I mentioned natural vision improvement earlier in this thread. If he
does that, he can keep glasses off for good except for driving unless
he can get to 20/40
Mike Tyner - 17 Feb 2006 23:27 GMT
>I mentioned natural vision improvement earlier in this thread. If he
> does that, he can keep glasses off for good except for driving unless
> he can get to 20/40

Yes, but this week you believe "natural vision improvement" works for
everybody.

-MT
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 17 Feb 2006 23:45 GMT
and last week it was orthoK, even though he as never tried it.  i guess
just reading a few web sites makes you an expert.  or maybe eating a
few mushrooms.
Quick - 18 Feb 2006 01:40 GMT
> and last week it was orthoK, even though he as never
> tried it.  i guess just reading a few web sites makes you
> an expert.  or maybe eating a few mushrooms.

"this one makes you large and this one makes you small".
Mom and Dad will be happy. Getting your eye exercises
off the web shouldn't cost anything. ...or is it only the
expensive "systems" that work.

-Quick
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 18 Feb 2006 04:21 GMT
"Yes, but this week you believe "natural vision improvement" works for
everybody."

My mistake, it works for only 95% of people. It sure has worked wonders
for me and I am not about to stop there! I consider orthoK "planB" if
im not seeing well enough to forgo glasses most of the time. If I can
get my myopia to less than -3 in the better eye, ill officially be
considered a low myope and able to go without glasses alot more than
now at -4. I think theres a good chance I can get below -3 :)
Salmon Egg - 18 Feb 2006 07:04 GMT
On 2/16/06 8:38 PM, in article
1140151081.376058.261170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "p.clarkii@gmail.com"

> ask your eye doctor.  do not take advise from kooks over the internet
> like otisbrown and acemanvx.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> is in the minds of the untrained uneducated trolls who continue to post
> in this forum.

Even though I am not an eye doctor, I can think logically, at least some of
the time. The mere fact that I am posting is evidence that there IS
controversy. Being indoctrinated is not the same as being educated. I have
extensive background in science and optics although not in medical aspects
thereof. Over the years, I have seen medical fads come and go. Where is the
definitive evidence that there is no controversy? I am asking for evidence,
not catechism.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
 
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