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Pain in the eye when wearing glasses - help!
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purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2006 02:33 GMT Hi all,
I had a case of eyestrain a couple of months ago, from reading too much on my PalmPilot (those things are *really* bad for you!). The eyestrain manifested as pain in my left eye. I am mildly myopic and astigmatic - something like -1 diopters. Nothing serious. The pain rather resembled the pain I had when I got a wrong prescription on my glasses (the PD was off by 10mm - ouch!) - same type of pain in the same eye.
Unfortunately, ever since that episode, I found I could not wear glasses for long without the pain recurring. When I go without my glasses, I do not have pain, even though things are rather blurry and I see double images with each eye. (and I can't read street signs when I drive) I went to an eye doctor and got my eyes checked, and she did not find anything wrong, except for weak accommodative muscles (?). She prescribed reading glasses (which I haven't received yet - still waiting for them to be made). She could not explain why my eye hurt, and why it was only one eye that hurt. I updated my distance prescription, but the new glasses make my eye hurt too. The vision I get in those glasses is perfect, btw; I do not think the glasses were badly made or that the prescription was terribly inaccurate.
So I would like to address the following questions to this august group: a) What do weak accommodative muscles have to do with eye pain? b) Am I doing serious damage to my vision by wearing those glasses (or by wearing any kind of glasses at all)? c) Should I get another eye exam, and what should I ask the doctor when I do?
I'll be extremely grateful for any advice.
Larisa
William Stacy - 17 Jan 2006 06:13 GMT > So I would like to address the following questions to this august > group: a) What do weak accommodative muscles have to do with eye pain? It is commonly believed that accommodative weakness causes eye pain when doing near work. Whether or not that is true is anyone's guess.
> b) Am I doing serious damage to my vision by wearing those glasses (or > by wearing any kind of glasses at all)? No. No effect.
c) Should I get another eye
> exam, and what should I ask the doctor when I do? Wait until you try the new glasses, then do that if you still have a problem.
w.stacy, o.d.
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2006 06:27 GMT try wearing glasses just for driving or when you need to see in the distance. For close work, glasses just strain the eyes as in your case(and mine too) if you are happier without glasses, then go without them much of the time
Dom - 17 Jan 2006 11:58 GMT > try wearing glasses just for driving or when you need to see in the > distance. For close work, glasses just strain the eyes as in your > case(and mine too) if you are happier without glasses, then go without > them much of the time Aceman I know you are very enthusiastic and just trying to be helpful but in this case your 'advice' to Larisa is not correct as she has astigmatism. We don't know how much astigmatism yet but you have prematurely jumped to an incorrect conclusion.
Dom
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2006 22:30 GMT > try wearing glasses just for driving or when you need to see in the > distance. For close work, glasses just strain the eyes as in your > case(and mine too) if you are happier without glasses, then go without > them much of the time Oh, that's what I'm doing - I don't have a choice at this point, I don't want to damage anything in my eye, so I'm wearing glasses as little as possible. Just for driving, at this point, and I take them off the moment I get out of the car. But I don't know what's going on with my eye - and that's what scares me. My glasses used to be just fine, and I could read in them and use them for distance vision, with no problems. And now I can't; and I'd like to know why.
LM
P.S. And I'm not happier without glasses, alas; I hate it when everything is blurry. Even if it's a little blurry, as in my case.
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 01:47 GMT What is your UCVA in each eye? BCVA? You are nearly plano in the left eye so maybe it does not need a correction and hence why you feel a pain in that eye? I have some friends who are nearly plano and glasses make next to no difference in how clear they see but it causes eyestrain and gives headaches so they go without glasses and see fine anyway. I am also thinking maybe the anisomtropia could be a factor. One of your eyes is considerabily worse than the other. I understand about the doubling, thats due to astigmastim but your astigmastim is mild so there isnt much disortion. Perhaps you have presbyopia? You got bifocals, this should help with the strain. I also cant see clearly from near unless I remove my glasses or use weaker glasses. How functional are you without glasses? I wish I could go without glasses but at -4.5 this isnt close to possible. You have it easy that glasses for you is optional!
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purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 04:38 GMT > What is your UCVA in each eye? BCVA? Umm, BCVA is 20/20; I'm not sure what the UCVA is.
> You are nearly plano in the left > eye so maybe it does not need a correction and hence why you feel a > pain in that eye? I have some friends who are nearly plano and glasses > make next to no difference in how clear they see but it causes > eyestrain and gives headaches so they go without glasses and see fine > anyway. The thing is that this was not a problem until the eyestrain. I've been wearing glasses full-time since the age of 18 or so, and had no trouble until about 2 months ago. I'm just not sure what it is I did to myself, and how to undo it.
> I am also thinking maybe the anisomtropia could be a factor. > One of your eyes is considerabily worse than the other. Yup. I get kind of a "monovision" effect when I'm not wearing glasses; my left eye is dominant for distance vision and my right eye is dominant for near vision. Both are somewhat blurry due to the astigmatism, but I can see well enough like that.
> I understand > about the doubling, thats due to astigmastim but your astigmastim is > mild so there isnt much disortion. Perhaps you have presbyopia? You got > bifocals, this should help with the strain. Haven't received the things yet; actually, I just got regular reading glasses rather than bifocals (I'm too young for bifocals...). But they haven't arrived yet. The eye doctor did say "weak accommodative muscles" - I'm not sure it's the same thing as presbyopia (isn't that due to a stiffening of the lens?), but the effect is the same, I guess.
> I also cant see clearly > from near unless I remove my glasses or use weaker glasses. How > functional are you without glasses? I wish I could go without glasses > but at -4.5 this isnt close to possible. You have it easy that glasses > for you is optional! Well, sure it's optional, but I'm headed for law school (I start in August). There's lots of reading in my future, and I'm kinda worried about reading that much without glasses. After about 1 hour or so of reading without glasses, I start seeing triple.
But yes, I'm rather glad that I am able to function without glasses right now.
LM
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 10:08 GMT maybe you can get glasses that just correct for your astigmastim and leave the myopia untouched. This will reduce the strain of constantly accomodating when your becomming presbyopic. By taking care of the astigmastim you wont see double or triple. Its worth a shot trying this just correcting for your astigmastim. Your myopia will help you with all the reading without strain :)
Dom - 18 Jan 2006 10:57 GMT >
> Yup. I get kind of a "monovision" effect when I'm not wearing glasses; > my left eye is dominant for distance vision and my right eye is > dominant for near vision. Both are somewhat blurry due to the > astigmatism, but I can see well enough like that. I just had another thought: do your new frames sit further out away from your eyes than previous pairs?
> Haven't received the things yet; actually, I just got regular reading > glasses rather than bifocals (I'm too young for bifocals...). But they > haven't arrived yet. The eye doctor did say "weak accommodative > muscles" - I'm not sure it's the same thing as presbyopia (isn't that > due to a stiffening of the lens?), but the effect is the same, I guess. Yes presbyopia is a hardening of the lens which becomes noticeable around the mid 40's. At 29 you're way too young to have that.
"Weak accommodative muscles" is not an accurate name for any condition but just the layman's translation your eye doctor used. What he really meant I'm not sure.
>>I also cant see clearly >>from near unless I remove my glasses or use weaker glasses. How [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > about reading that much without glasses. After about 1 hour or so of > reading without glasses, I start seeing triple. With your astigmatism I wouldn't recommend doing a law degree without wearing glasses for reading! Whether they need to be special reading glasses or just your everyday pair I can't say without a lot more information. But either way glasses for a law student with your astigmatism are not 'optional'!
> But yes, I'm rather glad that I am able to function without glasses > right now. > > LM Unfortunatly Aceman who has been 'helping' you is not an eye doctor or optometrist but an enthusiastic teenager who lives with his parents, chews psychoactive mushrooms (seriously), and reads a lot about vision on the internet. As I said to him recently, "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". He means well but tends to give advice that's not backed up by any training, experience or expertise.
Dom
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 21:05 GMT > > > > Yup. I get kind of a "monovision" effect when I'm not wearing glasses; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I just had another thought: do your new frames sit further out away from > your eyes than previous pairs? Umm, not really. They're pretty similar. And it's the old glasses I had trouble with after the eye strain - glasses that had been problem-free for two years before that.
> > Haven't received the things yet; actually, I just got regular reading > > glasses rather than bifocals (I'm too young for bifocals...). But they [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > but just the layman's translation your eye doctor used. What he really > meant I'm not sure. She tested my accommodation - showed me some kind of small print to read, moved it in really close and asked if it was blurry. It was. The weird thing is that when I had an eye exam 3 years ago, the doctor had said I had very good accommodation (and I had no trouble reading in my distance glasses); could eyestrain cause some kind of damage to the eye muscles?
> >>I also cant see clearly > >>from near unless I remove my glasses or use weaker glasses. How [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > information. But either way glasses for a law student with your > astigmatism are not 'optional'! Sure. That's why I'd like to get the problem resolved before I go to law school. Right now, I can read without glasses if I take breaks and rest my eyes periodically. I'm kinda scared to put on my glasses right now.
LM
Dom - 18 Jan 2006 11:05 GMT > What is your UCVA in each eye? BCVA? You are nearly plano in the left > eye so maybe it does not need a correction Ace she is not "nearly plano" in the left eye. She has 1.25 dioptres of cyl in that eye. That is not "nearly plano".
and hence why you feel a
> pain in that eye? I have some friends who are nearly plano and glasses > make next to no difference in how clear they see but it causes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > about the doubling, thats due to astigmastim but your astigmastim is > mild so there isnt much disortion. Perhaps you have presbyopia? Ace she is 29 years old: she does not have presbyopia.
You got
> bifocals, this should help with the strain. She did not get bifocals, what made you think that she did?
I also cant see clearly
> from near unless I remove my glasses or use weaker glasses. How > functional are you without glasses? I wish I could go without glasses > but at -4.5 this isnt close to possible. You have it easy that glasses > for you is optional! Glasses are not optional when you have one dioptre of cyl and are planning on going to law school.
Aceman I've said it before and I'll say it again: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You have a *little* knowledge. Your well-meaning advice may hurt someone. Please be careful.
Dom
Dom - 17 Jan 2006 12:02 GMT > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Larisa Larisa it would be helpful to me and the other optometrists who read this if you could answer a few questions:
How old are you?
Can you post your optical prescription to this group, including the "Add"?
How would you describe the pain? Sharp or dull? Mild or intense? Momentary or lasting for hours? Like a headache? Like tired eyes? Pain located behind your eyes or on the surface?
Dom
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2006 21:27 GMT Sorry about the incomplete information; answers follow. Thanks so much!
> Larisa it would be helpful to me and the other optometrists who read > this if you could answer a few questions: > > How old are you? 29.
> Can you post your optical prescription to this group, including the "Add"? OD: -1.75 spherical, -1.00 cyl, 100 axis (add 0.75 for the reading glasses) OS: -0.25 spherical, -1.25 cyl, 100 axis (add 0.75 for the reading glasses)
It's fairly recent; I had the eye exam done a week ago or so.
> How would you describe the pain? Sharp or dull? Mild or intense? > Momentary or lasting for hours? Like a headache? Like tired eyes? Pain > located behind your eyes or on the surface? Umm... it's kinda sharp, medium intensity (and gets worse the longer I leave the glasses on). Feels like it's in the middle of the eye, somehow. In the morning, the eye feels sore and tired (as if I hadn't slept enough - even when I had). When I take the glasses off, the problem lessens; if I don't wear glasses for a couple of days, it goes away.
The weird thing is that it's only one eye - the other eye is fine. I've even been thinking that I might just take the left lens out of my glasses for a while.
LM
Dom - 18 Jan 2006 10:45 GMT > Sorry about the incomplete information; answers follow. Thanks so > much! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 29. OK so it's not "presbyopia" as another poster incorrectly suggested.
>>Can you post your optical prescription to this group, including the "Add"? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It's fairly recent; I had the eye exam done a week ago or so. OK so you have enough astigmatism that you could expect to experience problems when reading for long periods without glasses (& even not-so-long periods). Wearing the appropriate glasses when reading would certainly help you.
>>How would you describe the pain? Sharp or dull? Mild or intense? >>Momentary or lasting for hours? Like a headache? Like tired eyes? Pain [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > LM Really Larisa I'm not sure what the cause of your problem is. Maybe your new glasses are too strong (which could certainly cause eye strain). Maybe you have dry eyes, which has been known to cause a sudden sharp little pain (which disappears fairly quickly). These are my two best guesses.
If you came to see me for an opinion I would: 1. Check that your glasses were made correctly. 2. Re-check your vision (refraction) paying attention to the balance between your eyes and being careful not to "over-minus" you. 3. Also I would assess your tear film to check for dry eye. 4. If nothing showed up yet, I'd start looking for much more unlikely things like iritis, retrobulbar neuritis, etc. Don't worry about step 4 until you've done 1 to 3!!!
The fact that the pain is in one eye doesn't necessarily mean that that is the eye with the wrong prescription.
Unless you really don't trust your original eye doctor, I'd go back there and give him/her an oppotunity to look further into it.
BTW, do you have a copy of your previous prescription you could post for comparison??
Dom
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT > Really Larisa I'm not sure what the cause of your problem is. Maybe your > new glasses are too strong (which could certainly cause eye strain). [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The fact that the pain is in one eye doesn't necessarily mean that that > is the eye with the wrong prescription. How does that work?
> Unless you really don't trust your original eye doctor, I'd go back > there and give him/her an oppotunity to look further into it. Yeah, I think that's what I'll do.
> BTW, do you have a copy of your previous prescription you could post for > comparison?? It wasn't all that different, from what I recall. I think it was about 0.25sph less in both eyes, with no change in cyl.
I think I'll just go without glasses for now (since that makes the pain go away), and see what happens. If my left eye still can't tolerate glasses by the time it's time to go to law school, I'll just get a monocle. Do people still wear monocles?
LM
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 23:23 GMT I have been told I have presbyopia even though im only 23. I dont want to argue. If you say its not presbyopia, does it make a difference if my symptoms and purple_bov's act like presbyopia whether they actually are or not? We both experience a blur if things are held too close to our eyes.
purple_bov is near plano. With her -1.25 astigmastim and -.25 sphere, she has a total spherical equivalent of less than -1 diopters. This is functional for going without glasses and legal to drive since shes probably 20/30 or at worst, 20/40 uncorrected. Do you know for sure what it is purple_bov? Ive also suggested to purple_bov getting glasses just to correct her astigmastim.
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 04:24 GMT > I have been told I have presbyopia even though im only 23. I dont want > to argue. If you say its not presbyopia, does it make a difference if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > what it is purple_bov? Ive also suggested to purple_bov getting glasses > just to correct her astigmastim. I'm actually not sure, but alas, I'm not legal to drive without glasses, because my right eye did not pass the test (the left eye did). I also find that since my astigmatism is on a nearly-horizontal axis with my left eye, I can't read street signs when I drive without glasses - the letters blur together.
Quite seriously, I know my optical error is mild and I don't bump into the furniture when I walk around, but just after a week of not wearing glasses, I'm getting a very unlovely wrinkle on my forehead from the constant squinting. Not good.
I've started using "artificial tears" - I'm not sure if they're helping any, or if it's the not wearing glasses, but I'm happy to report that my left eye is now merely "tired" rather than actually painful. Wrinkles aside, things are improving. I'm still scared to wear glasses, though.
Now that I think more about this (and optical matters have been rather at the forefront of my mind lately, obviously), I've had this kind of pain before (about 2 years ago), when I got glasses with the wrong PD (the doctor's stupid secretary wrote down the wrong number - it was off by 10mm). I wore them for a few days because I thought my eyes "needed to get used to them" - gave myself a pain in the eye instead. It was the left eye then, too. Could I have strained something then, in an effort to accommodate to the wrong prescription, and caused a recurrence now by all the computer use?
LM
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 05:52 GMT If your not legal to drive, how do you drive without wearing glasses? It does seem supprising how much -1.25 diopters of astigmastim blurs or rather, disorts things. Do you think maybe your glasses pescription is outdated and too weak? Or maybe your astigmastim axis changed somewhat? Mine does that all the time so ive gotten glasses that dont correct the astigmastim and I see fine. Granted my astigmastim is probably no more than -1 and probably half that in my dormant eye. Have you tried placing reading glasses over your glasses when reading and see if this helps with the headaches?
Dom - 19 Jan 2006 10:28 GMT > Now that I think more about this (and optical matters have been rather > at the forefront of my mind lately, obviously), I've had this kind of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > effort to accommodate to the wrong prescription, and caused a > recurrence now by all the computer use? No, wearing the wrong glasses for a few days two years ago would definitely have nothing to do with what you are experiencing now.
However intensive computer use can cause eye symptoms - as you've already found out!
Dom
> LM Dom - 19 Jan 2006 10:25 GMT > I have been told I have presbyopia even though im only 23. I dont want > to argue. If you say its not presbyopia, does it make a difference if > my symptoms and purple_bov's act like presbyopia whether they actually > are or not? We both experience a blur if things are held too close to > our eyes. Other conditions can mimic presbyopia e.g. accommodative disorders, over-minussed, use of various eyedrops & drugs which may affect accommodation (sound familiar?). Presbyopia is different, a hardening of the lens with age. Similar symptoms maybe, but different cause.
> purple_bov is near plano. With her -1.25 astigmastim and -.25 sphere, > she has a total spherical equivalent of less than -1 diopters. This is > functional for going without glasses and legal to drive since shes > probably 20/30 or at worst, 20/40 uncorrected. Not necessarily. Surely you have learned from the other thread that you can't correlate refractions with acuities? 1.25 cyl is enough to really affect people's vision - some more than others.
Do you know for sure
> what it is purple_bov? Ive also suggested to purple_bov getting glasses > just to correct her astigmastim. acemanvx@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 11:54 GMT "Not necessarily. Surely you have learned from the other thread that you can't correlate refractions with acuities? 1.25 cyl is enough to really
affect people's vision - some more than others."
Your probably right. I read that while astigmastim blurs the speherical equivalent of myopia, its much more distracting and the quality poorer. Take a -2 astigmatic and a -1 myope and a -2 myope. The -2 astigmatic has a -1 spherical error and may see 20/40 UCVA but everything is smeared, doubled and disorted. That person would be really unhappy without correction despite a seemly good UCVA. The -1 myope wont even be bothered despite also being 20/40. The -2 myope may be 20/80 but not bothered as much as the -2 astigmatic. I have a friend who got glasses when he was 20/20 due to astigmastim and now hes 20/30 or 20/40 and has a few diopters astigmastim. He told me everyone wonders why he wears glasses if hes not far from 20/20 but hes really bothered by the astigmastim, everything is doubled, smeared, blurred, disorted at all distances. He says myopes definately have it better than me, even with much worse UCVA because their quality of vision is so much better plus they dont need glasses for reading!
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 06:23 GMT > The weird thing is that it's only one eye - the other eye is fine. > I've even been thinking that I might just take the left lens out of my > glasses for a while. Just as an update - I took the left lens out of my glasses. I have to say it's an improvement - I am not squinting anywhere near as much, though things do look weird (I probably look weird too - I wonder what my students will say...). Reading is not as comfortable like this as I thought it would be. I find myself just closing my left eye to read. But distance-related things - watching TV and such - are a lot easier.
LM
Dom - 19 Jan 2006 10:20 GMT >>The weird thing is that it's only one eye - the other eye is fine. >>I've even been thinking that I might just take the left lens out of my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > LM Another possibility is that the axis is incorrect in one eye (maybe a transcribing error). I suggest this because often an axis of 100 in one eye would go with an axis of 80 or thereabouts in the other. e.g. RE axis 100 LE axis 80.... or RE axis 80 LE axis 100. Just a thought... especially since that secretary is prone to copying errors!!
I'd still suggest following those 3(-->4) steps I posted earlier.
Also, keep up those artifical tear drops just in case they help... they can't do any harm to try, that's for sure.
Dom
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 20:39 GMT > Another possibility is that the axis is incorrect in one eye (maybe a > transcribing error). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Just a thought... especially since that secretary is prone to copying > errors!! Hmm, weird. I think that that part is correct, though - I actually found an astigmatism test online and looked at it, and both eyes appear to be 100 degrees. (it was a fan-shaped set of lines and you were supposed to see which lines were sharpest).
> I'd still suggest following those 3(-->4) steps I posted earlier. Oh, I will. My mother's eye doctor is really good, so I'll probably go to him and ask him to re-check that prescription and make sure it's not overcorrected. Alas, he's busy so I can't schedule an appointment right away; but at least now, I'm fairly functional.
LM
Roy Starrin - 20 Jan 2006 14:06 GMT >I actually >found an astigmatism test online Where, please TIA Roy
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 20 Jan 2006 18:49 GMT > >I actually > >found an astigmatism test online > > Where, please > TIA > Roy Here: http://www.perret-optic.ch/optometrie/test_vision_astigmatisme/opto_test_astigma tisme_gb.htm
LM
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 28 Jan 2006 22:29 GMT > Another possibility is that the axis is incorrect in one eye (maybe a > transcribing error). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'd still suggest following those 3(-->4) steps I posted earlier. I just thought I'd post an update - now I'm even more mystified. I went and had another eye exam, at a different optometrist's. She also did not find anything wrong in my left eye, and gave me the following prescription:
OD: -1.50 -1.00 axis 98 OS: +0.25 -1.50 axis 100
which is fairly similar to the prescription the other doctor gave me (within a .25 diopter). She also checked the glasses I had (made to the other prescription) and said that they were accurate and that there is no reason why I should be reacting to them the way I am. She tried to suggest that I may need some time to "get used to the glasses", but I'm afraid that if I wear them past the point of pain (which comes after about 2 hours of wearing them), I'll screw something up permanently (or even more than it's already screwed up). She was honest enough to admit that she had no idea what's wrong with my eye.
> Also, keep up those artifical tear drops just in case they help... they > can't do any harm to try, that's for sure. I am. Doesn't seem to have any effect, one way or the other, but I am using them just in case.
Incidentally, I'm noticing that my eye turns red when I wear those glasses; the redness is on the rim of my iris, closer to the nose - kind of a little strip of red going 1/3 of the way around the iris. Does that mean anything?
The other completely mystifying thing I've been noticing is that when I wear my "modified" glasses, with the left lens removed, I still get a bit of a "weird" sensation in my left eye. I do not have any such weirdness when I wear no glasses at all.
Help?
LM
Dom - 29 Jan 2006 09:07 GMT > I just thought I'd post an update - now I'm even more mystified. I > went and had another eye exam, at a different optometrist's. She also [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > after about 2 hours of wearing them), I'll screw something up > permanently (or even more than it's already screwed up). It's pretty hard to imagine that wearing a pair of glasses, even if the strength were not quite right, would do any long term damage. But having said that if they are causing you pain then it's probably *not* a great idea to 'push through' the pain & keep wearing them until you solve your problem.
When you are wearing the glasses are you looking through the vertical centre of the frame --- or do the glasses sit down low on your nose so you're looking through the top area of the lenses?
She was
> honest enough to admit that she had no idea what's wrong with my eye. Sometimes the answer to an unusual problem is very hard to find!
> Incidentally, I'm noticing that my eye turns red when I wear those > glasses; the redness is on the rim of my iris, closer to the nose - > kind of a little strip of red going 1/3 of the way around the iris. > Does that mean anything? Could be. Or maybe not.
Like your different optometrist I really don't know what's going on... but your answers to these questions may help:
Do you spend a lot of time in airconditioned/heated/dry environments? Are you outdoors a lot? Do your eyes ever feel dry? Do you wear wraparound sunglasses whenever you're outside?
These next ones should all be 'no'... let us know if any 'yes' or 'maybe' answers: Are you unusually sensitive to light? Do your eyes hurt when you look up/down/left/right and around in a circle (without moving your head)? If you cover one eye and then the other, is there a difference in the illumination (brightness) of the room you're in? If you cover one eye and then the other, is there a difference in how vivid & colourful a brightly coloured object appears (a red object is ideal for this test)? Are your pupils ever different sizes to each other? Is your vision blurry, hazy or dim in the either eye with your glasses on, for either close or distant focussing? If you look at a regular grid pattern (like graph paper or some other regular pattern) is there any waviness or distortion with either eye (cover the other one)?
> The other completely mystifying thing I've been noticing is that when I > wear my "modified" glasses, with the left lens removed, I still get a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LM The other thing you could do, depending on how thorough you think your eye exams have already been, would be to see an ophthalmologist to exclude any medical cause for your problem... although you'd hope that it would already have been picked up by the people you've already seen.
Dom
RT - 29 Jan 2006 14:21 GMT > > Incidentally, I'm noticing that my eye turns red when I wear those > > glasses; the redness is on the rim of my iris, closer to the nose - > > kind of a little strip of red going 1/3 of the way around the iris. > > Does that mean anything? I am a complete lay person, but if this was happening to me, I would think that there was something wrong with my eye, not my prescription, particularly since it happens when you take out the lens. Have you seen an ophthalmologist to rule out infection, neuritis etc.? That would be my first stop--an MD, not an optometrist.
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purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 29 Jan 2006 22:47 GMT > > > Incidentally, I'm noticing that my eye turns red when I wear those > > > glasses; the redness is on the rim of my iris, closer to the nose - [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > an ophthalmologist to rule out infection, neuritis etc.? That would be > my first stop--an MD, not an optometrist. Yeah, I'll do that. The first optometrist seemed to be very thorough about checking for various diseases of the eye, and did not find anything. But I will go see an MD.
LM
purple_bovine@yahoo.com - 29 Jan 2006 22:46 GMT > It's pretty hard to imagine that wearing a pair of glasses, even if the > strength were not quite right, would do any long term damage. But having [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > centre of the frame --- or do the glasses sit down low on your nose so > you're looking through the top area of the lenses? I am looking through the center. I wear my glasses as far up on my nose as humanly possible, and this has not changed.
> > Incidentally, I'm noticing that my eye turns red when I wear those > > glasses; the redness is on the rim of my iris, closer to the nose - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Do you spend a lot of time in airconditioned/heated/dry environments? Umm, not really; I live in Texas, but it's not very dry here, and we are not using air conditioning now.
> Are you outdoors a lot? No; I spend most of the time indoors.
> Do your eyes ever feel dry? No.
> Do you wear wraparound sunglasses whenever you're outside? Yes. I don't go outdoors without sunglasses.
> These next ones should all be 'no'... let us know if any 'yes' or > 'maybe' answers: > Are you unusually sensitive to light? No
> Do your eyes hurt when you look up/down/left/right and around in a > circle (without moving your head)? No
> If you cover one eye and then the other, is there a difference in the > illumination (brightness) of the room you're in? No
> If you cover one eye and then the other, is there a difference in how > vivid & colourful a brightly coloured object appears (a red object is > ideal for this test)? No.
> Are your pupils ever different sizes to each other? No.
> Is your vision blurry, hazy or dim in the either eye with your glasses > on, for either close or distant focussing? No; but I am noticing that my left eye can't focus as close as my right eye. The difference is about 2-3 cm, by a highly unscientific test.
> If you look at a regular grid pattern (like graph paper or some other > regular pattern) is there any waviness or distortion with either eye > (cover the other one)? No.
> > The other completely mystifying thing I've been noticing is that when I > > wear my "modified" glasses, with the left lens removed, I still get a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > exclude any medical cause for your problem... although you'd hope that > it would already have been picked up by the people you've already seen. Yeah, that'll probably be the next course of action.
Thanks,
LM
Dom - 30 Jan 2006 10:15 GMT >>The other thing you could do, depending on how thorough you think your >>eye exams have already been, would be to see an ophthalmologist to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > LM Your answers suggest to me that you don't have any deeper health problems with your eyes, and that probably your problem is something to do with the eye testing/optical prescription or lens & frame alignment/manufacturing issues. Which is good news I suppose. But still have a medical eye check. Then maybe another optometrist opinion!!
Dom
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