I have some news to tell all of ya! Last week I went to the
ophthamologist. You can read about it here.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.vision/browse_thread/thread/7c0c68b16a86f
aaf/19ca60b779c86bf5#19ca60b779c86bf5

I went again earlier today to get my manifast refraction. First I went
to exam room one where this pretty, curvy 32-35(?) year old lady had me
read the projector eyechart. Results were the same as last time, 20/50
in left eye, 20/40-1 in right(cant tell between the G and O). This was
with -4.25 glasses. I asked her some questions, she doesnt know much as
shes not a doctor(perhaps his assisant?) She wears contacts of -3 which
are equivalent to -3.75 glasses due to vertex distance and she knew
that part and agreed with me. She has no clue how well she sees UCVA
nor BCVA which is ironic and we both laughted! She just said she sees
"ok" with those contacts. Could be a slight undercorrection which I
suspect anyway since I was supprised she could read from a foot away. I
commented that this close would be blurry and she was like sorry, your
unlucky to have presbyopia at a young age. Her contacts rarely cause
discomfort, lucky her!

Next the ophthamologist tested me with a few minus lenses strait from
the kit. He didnt even use the phororaptor which I found strange. First
he tested my CVA with those -4.25 glasses and the results were
repeatable. Next he placed a -.75 lens over my right eye to give me -5
diopters total. I remarked that things did seem a little clearer but it
became more blurry in the central vision field. He remarked "strange"
Then I suggest he try cylindar so he used that lens and I got to play
with the angel by turning a knob. I watched the 20/40 line then 20/30
line come in focus. I couldnt see any of the 20/25 line which didnt
supprise me. He proclaimed me -4.25 with -.75 at 40 degrees and 20/30
BCVA. Next came the left eye. He placed a -.75 lens and I read the
20/30 without trouble. Then he went strait to -1.25 and the 20/30
became a bit clearer. I told him lets try the 20/25 line for that eye
and he did. I took a 5 second look then said "let me just go for it"
and I read them off in rapid succession. My dad and the doc both said
wow you got them all right, this is amazing! I was supprised and amazed
too and just said thats great! He was done but I said try a -1 lens but
he says it doesnt matter. I said I probably can see just as well with
1/4 diopter less as I dont need -5.5 diopters! He says you can buy a
trial lens set new for $300 and test your vision as much as you want
and test for any improvement.

I then went back to exam room one and tried some trial lenses. I placed
a -.75 and a -1 and compared the difference. There was one but very
small but enough to notice. Then I tried -1 and -1.25 and there was
absolutely no difference. I should have played more with the right eye
but there wasnt time. The conclusion thus far shows I am:

left(OS) count fingers UCVA(20/600) 20/50 with -4.25 glasses, 20/25
with -5.25
right(OD) UCVA 20/400, 20/40 with -4.25 glasses, 20/30 with
-4.25x-.75@40(about -4.63 spherical equivalent)

This all makes sense to me. Using the near point to confirm my results
points around 20cm for the left eye and near 22cm for the right. Those
values change depending how much I relax my eyes for natural vision
improvement. Also a -1 diopter undercorrection in the left eye reduces
me from 20/25 to 20/50 which makes sense as far as 20/xx vs. diopters
go. People who see 20/20 get 20/40 at -1. The right eye is reduced one
line due to the -.75 astigmastim.
Since im set on orthoK, I wont bother getting new glasses, at least not
till after orthoK and also ill have very low dependancy on glasses
after orthoK.

Natural vision improvement gave me 3/4 diopter improvement so far in
the nearly 1 year ive been at it. Otis himself said the recovery rate
is 1/4 diopter per 4 months. I still have a good diopter if not more of
pseudomyopia.