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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 16:22 GMT
Truth is not my friend
But of lies, I have no fear
I use that which helps.

Seven decade life
But still, I have left no mark
Dignify my life.

Science eludes me
I claim I'm an engineer
Why won't I just test?

Aeronautical?
But I only understand
The notion of "spin."

You must believe me
For I SAVED MY NEPHEW'S EYES
That must be enough.

Oakley-Young's my guide
Ignore esophoria
Follow me instead.

Are you a chicken?
Come with me.  I can help you.
But for humans, no.
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otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 18:03 GMT
Some clarification:

Neil>  You must believe me

Otis> No, please DO NOT BELIEVE ME.

The living eye is dynamic, in the sense
of it refractive state relative to its
average visual-environment.

The "alternative" thesis, is that the
living eye IS NOT DYNAMIC.

But this is of course a scientific
argument -- and not a medical argument.

Keith was presented with BOTH
the majority opinon, and the SECOND OPINION.

I also explained that half-baked people
like you make discussion of the
second-opinion virtually IMPOSSIBL,
unless the person hismself evaluates
the scientific facts -- and makes his
own wise decision.  This is
of course what Dr. Colgate did, and
others who did not wish to lose
their distant vision to:

First, a long-term "near environment,

and then,

A seriously over--prescribed minus.

He realized that he had a "fighting
chance to do this "preventive"
work correctly.  And he did so.
Sure as hell was not easy.

For I SAVED MY NEPHEW'S EYES

No, not the case.  Keith made a
decision that retaining his distant
vision was important to him so
he WORKED THE ISSUE under
his control.

You have sent emails to him,
and Keith complained to
my about your psychotic
response to his success.

Neil -- please do not do
that again!

Neil>  That must be enough.

As always -- that was Keith's call,
and the second-opinion at this time.

Otis
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 18:18 GMT
>Neil>  You must believe me
>
>Otis> No, please DO NOT BELIEVE ME.

Well, absent proof, all you offer is your word.

>The living eye is dynamic, in the sense
>of it refractive state relative to its
>average visual-environment.

That's just the Best,Otis,Engineer folderol.

>The "alternative" thesis, is that the
>living eye IS NOT DYNAMIC.

Naw.  All that is is the inverse of the Best,Otis,Engineer folderol.
Quit trying to control the terminology, Uncle Otie.  It's not helping.

BTW: How come you didn't respond to "Only Have Eyes For You?"  He/she
asked a few very reasonable, very direct questions.  Scared??

>You have sent emails to him,
>and Keith complained to
>my about your psychotic
>response to his success.

I explained to your nephew--because ... AS your nephew ... he doesn't
appear to understand the difference between anecdotal evidence and
actual proof.  He does have your genes, eh?

>Neil -- please do not do
>that again!

Or ... what, exactly?  Perhaps my reaching out to your nephew can be
part of your defense against charges of practicing medicine without a
license.  Perhaps.

Maybe you shouldn't post his e-mail address on the Internet as "proof"
of your hypothesis....

What happened to your free speech argument, Uncle Otie?  It's only
permissible when it's *you* spouting off?

Got it.
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otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 18:26 GMT
Thank you for your concern for Keith's
successful results.

Because of his efforts (since age 13) he
always monitored his eye chart.

When his distant vision got "blurry" he
got "busy" with the plus, and cleared
to at least better than the Legal
VA standard.

Because of his knowledge of West Point
201 files, he knew that the un-protected
eye goes down by -1.3 diopters in
four years (spread -1.1 to -1.6 diopters)
and he knew that "neglect" was NOT
the way to keep your distant vision
clear for life.  He knew that he was
personally responsible --and that
he had not choice but to do it
UNDER HIS CONTROL.

The result is that keeping his distant
clear for life cost him maybe $100
for various strength plus lenses over
the last 20 years.

He has avoided stair-case myopia.

He has avoided paying $200 to $400
every time his "prescriptiong" changed
by 1/4 diopters.

He has avoid Lasik -- and all its
complications.

He has avoided Ortho-K.

He has avoided the false idea that
a minus lens has no effect on the
natural eye.

He has had MEDICAL exams to
elliminate any MEDICAL problems -- I always
recommend that.

But once it becomes a matter of
his natural eye having an slight
negative refractive state, well, hell,
anyone could clear their distant vision
if they had the "smarts" and motivation
for it.

As Keith says -- study your options,
and make your choice.  Learn
from the errors and mistakes
of others.   Formulate your
own preventive program.

[I do not begrudge the ODs their
money.  In fact, faced with you
"dense" attitude -- I understand
that they can provide NO ONE
with any help for true prevention.
Think about it -- and the
reasons why.  OSB]

+++++++++++++

FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE WEARING A PLUS LENS

Dear Uncle,          February 19, 1990

    Thank you very much for the book, "How to Avoid
Nearsightedness".  I got it yesterday after I came back from the
weekend.  I am looking forward to reading it soon, but for now I
have a great deal of school work to read.

    I would imagine you'll be pleased to have me tell you that
one of the first things I did after opening your book was to check
my eyes with the eye chart.  I am able to read the 20/20 line on
the eye-chart. I have been using my drug store plus lenses most
of the time now.  I have always passed the driver's license eye
test.

    I use these glasses nearly 100 percent of the time when I
read text books and use them for about 70 percent of the total
reading I do.  I started using them as much as possible again
because, at the end of last semester my sight was pretty bad (I
didn't check them on a chart).  I am lucky to have an uncle who
showed me back in eighth grade that I could prevent my
nearsightedness.

    One thing college has taught me is to listen to others and
then use or adapt methods to work for me.  In the last few years I
have had a great deal more reading work to do. If I don't use the
magnifying lenses I notice fairly quickly that my sight starts to
deteriorate.  Then I realize it's time to do something to stop
that process.

    At the moment, I am wearing the magnifying lens because I
know what it does for my vision.  Thanks for taking the time to
tell me how to avoid a situation, wearing glasses at all times for
the rest of my life, that I would find unpleasant, and for sending
me a copy of your book so I can learn more in-depth about the
methods I am using.

         Keith B.
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 18:28 GMT
Dear Uncle Otie:

Because this is a difficult concept for you to get your head around, I
shall repost:

"Anecdotal evidence is a term commonly used to indicate
(pseudo-)scientific evidence based on single episodes ("anecdotes"),
instead of proper and verifiable statistics.

Anecdotal evidence is often used to support an unlikely claim that
cannot withstand scientific proof; in this meaning, it can generally
not be reproduced, and as such it is not accepted as a scientific
proof, but rather as a hallmark of quackery."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

"Quackery."  Get it?  Quackery.
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otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 18:34 GMT
As usual, I asked Neil to not contact my
nephew -- so he did.

Here is the remarks I sent to Keith.

If you want to know why no OD can help
you with this -- then psycho Neil Brooks
is indeed the reason.

It is rather obvious that Neil Brooks does not
have a job -- spending this amount of time
on the "net".  I think he is living in
a "sheltered" enviroment, perhaps
a mental institution.

Keep that in mind.

_______

Dear Keith,

Neil Brooks is truly psycho.

Just delete him -- and do not bother.

You "protected" your vision as did other intelligent
people.  That is the only thing that matters.

Best,

Otis
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 18:38 GMT
>As usual, I asked Neil to not contact my
>nephew -- so he did.

Gosh, Uncle Otie.  I, uh, don't believe that I did.

What are you smoking, what are you paying for it, and is it readily
available?  I understand it can lower IOP's!

>Here is the remarks I sent to Keith.
>
>If you want to know why no OD can help
>you with this -- then psycho Neil Brooks
>is indeed the reason.

Again, then, I apologize to all OD's for preventing them from
"true-prevention."  There, Uncle Otie, that's all I can do.

>It is rather obvious that Neil Brooks does not
>have a job -- spending this amount of time
>on the "net".  I think he is living in
>a "sheltered" enviroment, perhaps
>a mental institution.

Well, Southern California can be a bit nutty at times, I'll grant you
that....

>Keep that in mind.
>
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>
>Otis

That's kind of harsh, Uncle Otie.  I didn't write to the guy.  I think
he's going to realize that you're just a tad past your expiration date
here....

Net Loon!
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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 20:12 GMT
>>As usual, I asked Neil to not contact my
>>nephew -- so he did.
>
>Gosh, Uncle Otie.  I, uh, don't believe that I did.

I'm waiting for your apology for your false accusation ... and for you
to answer the very "fundamental" questions asked of you by "Only Have
Eyes For You."

Well??
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Quick - 02 Jan 2006 21:10 GMT
> Some clarification:

> The living eye is dynamic, in the sense
> of it refractive state relative to its
> average visual-environment.

That was clarification?
Please translate/paraphrase.

-Quick
Quick - 02 Jan 2006 21:41 GMT
>> Some clarification:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> That was clarification?
> Please translate/paraphrase.

I just had to read that a few more times... I grew
up in the 60's and 70's.  I'm pretty sure I would
be cheering in affirmation if I was just under the
influence of the right drugs. This brings visions
of Dobie Gillis episodes and beatnik poetry readings.

-Quick
otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 18:46 GMT
Dear preventive second-opinion friends,

In researching true-prevention you
do encounter ODs who recognize
that nearsighedness (a negative
refractive state of the natural eye)
can and MUST be stopped
at the pseudo-myopia stage.

But the work is "hard" and requires
consistent effort in the person.

That is, he monitors his eye chart,
uses the plus, and gradually
sees his eye chart clear,
20/70,  then 20/60, the
20/50,  then 20/40, etc.

But no one can "prescribe" it
and Neil will sue you if you
attempt it.

Maybe you should learn
how to implement the
second opinoin youself -- and
save the hassel of stair-case
myopi poven byt the Oakley-Young
study.

________

    Today a great mass of explict DIRECT scientific data spells out
the true effect that both a "confined environment AMD a minus lens
ultimately have on the refractive state of the fundamental eye.

While indeed difficult, true prevention is
possible (as proven by the primate
studies) but given the hostility
of the majority opinion ODs to
the concept -- I guess you have
no choice but to figure this out
for youself.

      ___________________________________

           Excerpt from Chalmer Prentice, M.D.
             on prevention with plus.

    The foregoing in connection with limited tests of more than
two hundred similar cases suggests an answer to that most
important question, 'What shall we do to prevent myopia in school
children and students?'

    In a nomad, who is reared out of doors, who follows such
pursuits that his vision is mostly used at twenty feet and greater
distances, the nerve-impulses to the ciliary muscle become
established so that the easiest vision is for the far point, and
in many years of such use, these impulses become more or less
fixed; while the child of a higher civilization spends its life
within doors, amuses itself with toys, picture books, kindergarten
amusements and learning to read.

    We will assume that such a child generally holds its book or
toy ten inches from the eyes, in which case the crystalline lens
requires a much greater convexity, or higher state of refraction
to bring about perfect vision; and this is brought about by an
increase in the ciliary nerve-impulse which contracts the ciliary
muscle.  Through long continued use, this excessive impulse
becomes comparatively fixed, and in some instances refuses to
suspend itself sufficiently to bring about distant vision again,
and so myopia has set in.

    The regular work of the student and those other pursuits
which require the use of the eye at the near point, tend to
perpetuate this disease and make it progressive.

    Again, the important question, 'How are the advantages of a
high civilization to be attained wihout the foregoing
disadvantages?' If the eyes are to be used at a distance of ten
inches, aid them artificially by a ten inch magnifying glass; then
the nerve-impulses to the ciliary muscle will be no more than if
the patient were leading an outdoor life and viewing objects at
twenty feet or more.  The nerve-centers are not called upon for so
excessive an impulse, and they become habituated to sending the
same amount of nerve-force as if an outdoor life were led.

    In conjunction with this artificial aid to the ciliary
centers, it may be found advantageous to suspend, in a measure,
the excessive nerve-impulses to the interni, by the use of prisms,
base in.  Under these artificial conditions, the eyes may be used
in the attainment of all the advantages of the highest
civilization while the nerve-centers are no more taxed than if out
of door pursuits were being followed.

    If the little student at school or any other person using the
eyes at the near point, were to be supplied with such glasses
during the hours of study, on leaving the school room they could
be taken off and the natural use of the eye at all other times
would be quite sufficient to cultivate and establish the habit of
accommodation. At least the danger of disturbing the
accommodation would be much less than the dangers resulting to the
eyes and nerve-centers without such aid.

    I simply suggest the above as a possible answer to one of the
most important questions of the day.

      [The partial chapter is printed below.  OSB]

       The Eye in its Relation to Health

       =================================

        By Chalmer Prentice, M.D.

     Chicago, A.C.  McClurg & Company

         Transcription (c) A. Wik, 2004

      ----------+ | Chapter IX | +--------

    The following are some very interesting experiments in myopia
which can be verified by any operator, and which prove that
refractive myopia depends on ciliary spasm, and that, even in
axial myopia, considerable repression can sometimes be made at the
near point.  In either class of cases, repression must be made at
the near point.  In various lengths of time, we shall be able to
reduce the myopia one or two dioptres, sometimes more. In most
cases satisfactory results will require considerable time and
patience; but a few experiments after the following example will
suffice to show that in some very advanced stages of myopia, it is
possible to suppress, or at least check, its onward course by
repression at the near point.

    This fact renders the fitting of minus glasses to myopic eyes
an open question.

            EXAMPLE CASES

    Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye
-1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change for the space of
two years; eyes in use more or less at the near point.    I
recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision
and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work.

    After reading in these glasses for several days, the patient
was able to read print twelve inches from the eyes.  This patient
was of more than ordinary intelligence and understood the aim of
the effort.  In six months I changed the glasses for reading and
writing to a +4 D without seeing the patient.  After using the +4
D glasses for several months he again came under my care for an
examination, when the left eye gave twenty-twentieths of vision,
while the right eye was very nearly the same, but the acuity was
just perceptibly less.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases;

    ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and
unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost
impossible to induce them to undergo the trial.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[Comment: Anyone considering "prevention" must understand this
     issue.  There is no "easy way" of prevention.  As
     Chalmers said -- the person must fully understand this
     issue.  It is for this reason that I suggest full
     transfer of "control" to the person himself.  If he
     lacks the motivation to look at the chart, and "clear"
     himself, then no "third party" (i.e., OD) can do it for
     the person.  This is why I separate a true-medical
     problem from preventing a negative refractive status in
     the natural eye.  I believe that the above staement
     simply clarifies that point.    OSB]

[Comment: We also have the "Neil Brooks" effect which must be
         understood.  Specifically, so people are half-psycho,
         if not half-wits.  These rabid people will SUE
         ANY OD WHO EVEN MENTIONS PREVENTION-WITH-PLUS.
         For that reason, no majority-opinion OD
         will EVER help you with true-prevention -- and
         I don't blame them.  I would not put up with it either.
         Just one man's opinion.  OSB]
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 18:50 GMT
>In researching true-prevention you
>do encounter ODs who recognize
>that nearsighedness (a negative
>refractive state of the natural eye)
>can and MUST be stopped
>at the pseudo-myopia stage.

IF you happen to be in Hong Kong, and IF he isn't being investigated
when you get there....

>But no one can "prescribe" it
>and Neil will sue you if you
>attempt it.

Oh, Uncle Otie ... you really need to get off of that.  I'm not
litigious.  IF the Franklin County District Attorney's office indicts
you, then it will have been *them* who found the need, not me.

Your inability to grasp simple concepts is astounding sometimes....
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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 18:54 GMT
The DA draws nigh
I'm afraid the jig is up
What will my fate be.

Compulsion drove me
A shame I could not be stopped
Could have walked away.

The strength of my faith
Should carry my argument
Why must they question?
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otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 19:13 GMT
And of course when a not-biased scientiests reviews the
preventive issue -- he reaches this second-opinion conclusion.

         HOW TO MAINATION CLEAR DISTANT VISION FOR LIFE

               By Dr. Stirling Colgate

              INTRODUCTION

    It is not necessary for young people to become myopic.
Progressive myopia is "iatrogenic" (a professionally induced
condition).  Myopia can be prevented by the use of far-sighted
glasses for reading instead of the use of near-sighted glasses for
distance.

    This book argues that myopia is completely preventable, and
therefore need not be progressive.  Young people should not use
negative-lens glasses for distance vision -- unless they
accurately understand the long-term consequences of such use.
There is a trade-off; either use positive lens glasses for the
unnatural act of reading or use negative-lens glasses to
compensate a distorted eyeball for distance vision.  The
scientific investigations on which this factual assessment is made
is based extensive scientific work by Dr.  Francis A.  Young, as
well a many other gifted researchers.

    "Normal vision" means seeing mountains, birds and stars at a
far distance -- "infinity" -- with sharp detail, as great a detail
as is allowed by the spacing of receptors (rods and cones) of the
retina of the eye.  This spacing of receptors has biologically
evolved in mammals, birds and some reptiles to corresponds to a
resolution of about one in ten thousand (l in 10,000), or a
resolution of 1 minute-of-angle.

    To make use of the resolution of the optical receptors
requires a focal system that is also good to 1 in 10,000.  We
can't be born with physiological parts that are made that
precisely; instead, there is a natural process in growth and
development that corrects for the wide dispersion of the physical
dimensions of the new born eye.  Essentially all eyes at birth are
far-sighted with a positive focal state.  Continual close-work
causes the normal eye to change from a positive to a negative
focal state -- which is described as "nearsightedness".

    This process of adaptation is supposed to stop when the eye's
focal status is zero.  (All normal eyes have a zero or positive
focal status.) The eye behaves in this manner for people and
animals in a natural environment, outdoors -- i.e., people without
books, TV, or sewing kits.  Instead we learn to read, and then our
focal status becomes as close as the book we read.  We lose the
ability to see clearly at a distance because our eyes have adapted
to the close-up focus of the book.  We call this condition
"near-sighted" or myopic.

    Our response to this condition is disastrous, because we
attempt to correct this condition by actions that exacerbate the
original condition, namely by wearing near-sighted glasses.  After
we have changed our focus to a negative value, and we want to see
a mountain, we must use a lens that moves the mountain (optically)
closer.  The mountain will have the same focal property as an
object close up.  Such a lens is called a negative lens or
"near-sighted glasses".

    The focal property of a close-by object is that the rays of
light diverge; for distant objects the light rays arrive parallel.
A negative lens, or "near-sighted glasses", causes light rays to
diverge; hence endowing the distant object with the focal
properties of one close-by.

    When we start wearing such glasses they indeed bring the
mountain closer, and of course in better (sharper) focus.  But
then with such glasses (when we read using these glasses) we bring
the near object up still closer.  Because of the wondrous
adaptability of the eye, the eye continues to adapt to the still
closer environment (caused by the negative lens) and you become
still more nearsighted.  That is, your normal eyes take on an ever
increasing negative focal state, caused directly by your use of a
negative lens.

    Fortunately, nature sometimes puts an end to this farce at
the age of about 18 to 22 -- by refusing to adapt further.  After
that you are stuck with a negative focal state for life because
the eyeball loses its ability to change in response to the close
work you are doing.  Of course, after the age of 40 to 50 you also
lose the elasticity of the lens.  This however, is an entirely
different matter, just as glaucoma, blindness, etc., are entirely
different eye problems.

    The elementary and obvious thing to do in order to maintain
clear distant vision -- i.e., seeing mountains and stars clearly
without glasses -- is to catch your focal adaptation when your
eye-sight is on the threshold of the situation, i.e., your focal
state is zero or slightly negative.  When you first notice a
slight blur at distance, begin using positive-lens glasses for
reading.

    A positive lens endows the close object with the focal
properties of a distant one by making near-by light rays parallel.
When you use a plus-lens for a close-by object, the rays become
parallel as rays are from a distant object.  Remember, prolonged
reading is the "unnatural" thing you are doing.  Then the focal
properties of the book you are reading are like those of the
mountains, i.e.  infinity, and the further adaptation of your eyes
stops at this point.  You then have, and can maintain normal
vision.  (A positive focal state of the eye.)

    Because this period of normal vision occurs early, 5 to 10
years old, you are usually too young to know when you are at
"normal" vision.  Your parents don't know either because until
recently it has not been understood.  Further, there has been no
consistent effort to accurately explain the eye's behavior to you,
so that you could not intelligently make this "either-or"
decision, between recovery and successful prevention, or
progressive worsening of vision.

    Every professional who deals with you owes it to you to
broach the subject of this alternative when you are on the
threshold of the situation.  Your eyes, after all, belong to you.
Since the nearsightedness produced by the negative lens cannot be
undone by a positive lens, it is imperative that you understand
and choose to use either one or the other of these two mutually
exclusive techniques.

    Science has progressed to an accurate understanding this
mechanism of slow change of the normal eye to its average
environment.  A significant number (several dozen) of professional
people in ophthalmology and related disciplines have empirically
and intuitively come to the same conclusion and unsuccessfully
attempted, even with the dedication of a lifetime, to reverse the
orthodox view of solely genetically determined eye focus.

    The "majority opinion" of those in the ophthalmology
profession has been a refusal to recognize a mechanism of slow
adaptation of the focal state of the eye to its mean focal
environment -- for various reasons.  Among these reasons are:

1.  There is a long-standing orthodox view that all focal states
   of the normal eye are hereditary and therefore nothing
   affects focus after conception.

2.  The public demands instantaneous sharp vision, i.e., "Johnny
   can't read the blackboard and I won't stand for any nonsense
   about getting positive glasses that make it still fuzzier --
   even temporarily!"

3.  The scientific understanding of the early development of the
   normal eye is new and not yet complete so there is always an
   excuse to ignore it.

4.  There have been many non-scientific books about sight without
   glasses that have not logically argued the reasons, not
   giving the physics background, nor have they discussed the
   biological mechanism.  For example, eye exercises involve
   contracting the ciliary muscle causing a shorter, more myopic
   focus and therefore tending to change the eyeball and produce
   a still more myopic state.

5.  Ophthalmologists in general are not required to study the
   physics of the normal eye, which includes optics and
   information theory necessary to understanding a logical
   scientific argument for a physiological mechanism.

6.  If reading glasses were used at the onset of myopia up to 90%
   of all myopia would be prevented, and then a significant
   fraction of the optometry profession would be eliminated.
   Furthermore, reading glasses cost no more than $6.00 to $9.00
   to manufacture and sell for $12.00 to $19.00 without a
   prescription.

7.  Many optometrists and even some ophthalmologists believe that
   myopia and wearing glasses is not such a bad thing; after
   all, many people want to buy glasses in order to look chic.
   The very many that undergo the discomfort and expense of
   wearing contact lenses is an overwhelming vote to the
   contrary.  People would rather not be nearsighted.

8.  Finally social pressure of intellectual achievement is forcing
   the age of first reading to an earlier, even preschool age,
   hence causing earlier myopia and a eventually, further
   progression.

Note:  Ophthalmologists who practice ophthalmology are trained as
      medical doctors specializing in the diseases of the eye.
      They have minimum training in optics, measuring human
      refractive states, physics, etc.  Optometry on the other
      hand, came out of physics dealing with the physical optics
      approach and the application of physical optics to
      correction of human refractive errors.  (This idea, of
      course, assumes that a negative focal state of the normal
      eye is a "refractive error".) Although optometry came from
      physics, little if any physics is retained in the
      curriculum of the training of optometrists.  Optometrists,
      however, are somewhat more sympathetic to the concept that
      myopia can be prevented with a plus lens, than are
      ophthalmologists -- although opinions vary widely!
otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 19:36 GMT
And some quotes for our pleasant
scientific discussion about the proven
dynamic behavior of the natural eye.

    "You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back."

                   - Beverly Rubik

    "It's like religion.  Heresy [in science] is thought of as a
bad thing, whereas it should be just the opposite."

              - Dr.  Thomas Gold

    "You can get into a habit of thought in which you enjoy
making fun of all those other people who don't see things as
clearly as you do.  We have to guard carefully against it."

               - Carl Sagan, 1987

    "All great truths begin as blasphemies."

                - George Bernard Shaw

    "I ask you, which is the greater threat to science and
mankind, accepting a claim that can have no possible benefit, or
rejecting a claim that can have great benefit?"

              - Dr.  Edmund Storms

    "In science it often happens that scientists say, "You know
that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken," and then
they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old
view from them again.  They really do it.  It doesn't happen as
often as it should, because scientists are human and change is
sometimes painful.  But it happens every day.  I cannot recall the
last time something like that happened in politics or religion."

                -Carl Sagan

    "The pressure for conformity is enormous.  I have experienced
it in editors rejection of submitted papers, based on venomous
criticism of anonymous referees.  The replacement of impartial
reviewing by censorship will be the death of science."

                  - Julian Schwinger, physicist

    "When adults first become conscious of something new, they
usually either attack it or try to escape from it...  Attack
includes such mild forms as ridicule, and escape includes merely
putting out of mind."

    - W.  I.  B Beveridge, The Art of Scientific Investigation,

    "The best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas."

                 - Linus Pauling

    "All truth passes through three stages:  First, it is
ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is
accepted as self-evident."

                 - Arthur Schopenhauer

    "Theories have four stages of acceptance:

    i) this is worthless nonsense;

    ii) this is an interesting, but perverse, point of view;

    iii) this is true, but quite unimportant;

    iv) I always said so.

                - J.B.S.  Haldane

    "The skeptic will say, 'It may well be true that this system
of equations is reasonable from a logical standpoint, but this
does not prove that it corresponds to nature.' You are right, dear
skeptic.  Experience alone can decide on truth.

                  - Albert Einstein

    "New ideas are always criticized - not because an idea lacks
merit, but because it might turn out to be workable, which would
threaten the reputations of many people whose opinions conflict
with it.  Some people may even lose their jobs."

               - physicist, requested anonymity
Dr. Leukoma - 02 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT
Whatever helps you make it through the day, Otis.  Some day you will
get the recognition you deserve for peddling outdated and disproven
ideas.

DrG
Dr. Leukoma - 02 Jan 2006 20:02 GMT
What a load, Otis!

DrG
otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 20:53 GMT
Dear DrG,

But of course, anyone who figures out how to clear their
vision (under their control) "escapes" your over-prescribed
minus -- sometimes as much as -2 diopters -- as
described below.

But, just remember, yours is just the majority opinion.

The second opinion supports true-prevention, if
the person himself will take the responsibility
(completely) to clear his vision on his own.

But then you don't like that concept.

Further, if you ever attempted to "change your mind",
Neil Brooks would turn you over to the OD Board
for "punishment".

As always, rejoyce in the outstanding success
of the people who use scientific principles
correctly -- to clear their vision to
pass all LEGAL VA required of them.

Best,

Otis

________

Dear Prevention minded friends,

Subject:  Mike's work on effective prevention.  (Teen to 20/25)

Re:  The over-prescription by a -2.0 diopter lens.  (Passed 20/40
line.)

Re:  Information for people currently working with the plus for
    prevention -- to clear to the 20/40 level.

    For a long time I suspected that the minus was
"over-prescribed" -- but I did not know how much -- or why.

    MIKE'S DECISION TO GO "COLD TURKEY" AT AGE 15

   From reports of Mike who contacted me, I found that:

1.  When he decided to go "cold turkey", he discovered that

   a.    His prescription was for -2.75 diopters.  (a 1 diopter
    lens =~ 20/70, this would mean a visual-acuity of 20/200 --
    approximately, or close to legal blindness).  But Mike could
    function without the minus lens.

   b.    When I asked him to read a standard eye-chart, he reported
    a "blurry" 20/70.  The Florida DMV standard is 20/70 --
    believe it or not.

2.  Since he was already working without the minus lens, I
   stated that he had to "clear" to 20/40 (1.8 cm at 6 meters) to
   truly reject the legal requirement for a minus lens.  How and
   why was Mike so serious over-prescribed?

   a.    The public "loves" over-prescription, so the ODs prescribe
    for 20/20.  However, adolescent and children's eyes can "do
    better" that 20/20.  According to Stacy OD, he will keep on
    "cranking" until he gets to 20/10.  This probably adds 1
    diopter to a prescription.

   b.    Thus a child that has 20/30 vision and has no rational
    need for that minus -- gets a -1.5 to -2 diopter lens, and
    worse, is told to "wear it all the time".

3.  It was a lot of work (following Colgate's method) but Mike
   gradually cleared to 20/40 and slightly better, i.e., passes
   the legal standard for driving a care.  At his mother's
   requiest he went back to the OD.

   a.    The OD puts him in a darkened room, with a
    low-illumination Snellen, and "cranked" on that minus lens, and
    insists that Mike's prescription is -2.0 diopters.  Why this
    conflict?

   b.    As far as I am concerned, a person who PASSES all legal
    visual-acuity standards that apply to him, is over-prescribed
    by the prescription -- which is not necessary, i.e., -2
    diopters.

4.  I believe that a -2 diopter lens will totally PREVENT
   vision-restoration -- if it is worn all the time -- and
   particularly when there is no legal need for it.

5.  I appreciate the idea that the OD believes that he is doing
   wonderful work when he "prescribes" this -2 diopter lens, but
   I think he has fallen in "love" with practice, and really has
   no idea of the long-term effect the minus lens has
   on the refractive state of the fundamental eye.
   In my opinion, it is tragic that NO ONE raises this issue.

    Fortunately, Mike has understood these issues.  Currently he
reports 20/30 to 20/25, which is incredible considering his
prescription of -2.75 dioters.    I have no idea if Mike can reach
20/20, but I do know that that "last" step seems to be the most
difficult.  There is nothing "easy" about any of this.  Further,
Mike knows that facts of the eye's behavior at West Point, that
the natural "unprotected" eye will go "down" by about -1.3 diopters
while working in a four-year college.
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT
>Further, if you ever attempted to "change your mind",
>Neil Brooks would turn you over to the OD Board
>for "punishment".

No, Dumbass.  Just you.

[rest of anecdotal, proves-nothing, bullshit snipped]
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Scott Seidman - 02 Jan 2006 21:14 GMT
>>Further, if you ever attempted to "change your mind",
>>Neil Brooks would turn you over to the OD Board
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> [rest of anecdotal, proves-nothing, bullshit snipped]

Did you remember to provide the email addy of the person that felt his/her
kid was worse off after following the advice??

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otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Jan 2006 21:20 GMT
Dear Scott,

Are you calling Dr. Stirling Colgate a dumb-a.s.

Please explain.  I expect that
his CV is more powerful that yours.

He is a real (Yiddish) Mensch -- if
have that correctly -- as was Jacob Raphaelson.

Best,

Otis
Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 21:31 GMT
>Dear Scott,
>
>Are you calling Dr. Stirling Colgate a dumb-a.s.

It was my use of the word, but I'm sure nobody on this forum would
direct it at anybody other than you.  That's our *special word* for
you, Uncle Otie :-)

>Please explain.  I expect that
>his CV is more powerful that yours.
>
>He is a real (Yiddish) Mensch -- if
>have that correctly -- as was Jacob Raphaelson.

So you find out that Scott is Jewish and now you're going to trot out
every Yiddish word you've ever heard.  You realize, don't you, that
that's just a subtle form of prejudice.

Neil
Bar Mitzvahed in '77.
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Scott Seidman - 02 Jan 2006 21:56 GMT
> So you find out that Scott is Jewish and now you're going to trot out
> every Yiddish word you've ever heard.  You realize, don't you, that
> that's just a subtle form of prejudice.

Languages tend to form words and phrases to deal with problems and
situations at hand.  While I still have yet to figure out just when and
where Germans had a problem with "dopplegangers", I now figure my Yiddish
speaking ancestors must have known somebody like Otis that motivated them
to come up with so many colorful terms for the male genitalia.

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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 22:03 GMT
>> So you find out that Scott is Jewish and now you're going to trot out
>> every Yiddish word you've ever heard.  You realize, don't you, that
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>speaking ancestors must have known somebody like Otis that motivated them
>to come up with so many colorful terms for the male genitalia.

ROTFL!!!
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Scott Seidman - 02 Jan 2006 21:46 GMT
> Dear Scott,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Otis

Life would be easier if you could learn to follow a thread.  By most
newsreaders conventions, the ">" symbol indicates that the text to the
right of the symbol is a quote from the previous post, and ">>" generally
shows text that was quoted by the previous poster.  Text with no such
indicator comes from the current poster.

Thus, the question about possible damages your advice could have caused
came from me.  The "Dumbass" line proudly came from Neil, whom I quoted.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to Colgate, who seems to be well
respected in his field (which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LIFE
SCIENCES!!!!).  The observation on the OD board came from you, whom Neil
quoted.

If you would learn to reply on the thread that you're actually  
responding to, and use a meaningful convention to show quoted text, your
babblings would be easier to understand.  They wouldn't be anymore
accurate, but they would be easier to follow.

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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 21:21 GMT
>>>Further, if you ever attempted to "change your mind",
>>>Neil Brooks would turn you over to the OD Board
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Did you remember to provide the email addy of the person that felt his/her
>kid was worse off after following the advice??

There are several.  I told them that the info was available.  

This gave me an ability to track whether or not they're acting on the
information I provided.
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Neil Brooks - 02 Jan 2006 22:51 GMT
I wanted to fly
But myopia set in
I shall seek revenge

My word is my bond
Why would you question my word
Shut up and wear plus

Anecdotal fluff
Should be all that's required
I spit out big names

Civility rules
Style matters more than substance
The smile on a dog

My brain's impacted
I can't push out cogent thoughts
Cerebral fiber?

Pleasant discussion
Dynamic box-camera eye
Just so much bullshit

Even Rishi fled
Why stay when you're not wanted
What is wrong with you?

Parents tied pork chops
Round my neck when I was young
So dog would love me.

But wait, there is Keith
Who proves all I've ever said
Because he loves me.

Hey, Uncle Otie?  Are you going to apologize to me for your baseless
accusation??

Are you every going to reply to "Only Have Eyes For You?"  Those
questions seemed pretty simple ... even for you.  When are those
answers coming, or ... does your absence from the computer mean that
Franklin County's finest have you detained??
 
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