> I've heard about ultrasonic cleaners but can't find any. Were they a
> gimmick that failed to catch on?
>> I've heard about ultrasonic cleaners but can't find any.
>> Were they a gimmick that failed to catch on?
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> Can't vouch for them, one way or the other, but they are
> an intriguing concept...
You can still find them at various places. I'd like to hear
a review from someone knowledgeable.
1) I don't expect military grade for $30 (more towards the
not-quite-junk sort of thing) but is it possible to make
an effective ultrasonic cleaner that sells for $30?
2) My almost non-existant knowledge of ultrasonic cleaners
is that they can/do generate heat (in the object being cleaned?).
Would this be an issue for RGP materials?
I'd love for these things to work -- really appeals to my wont
for gadgets.
-Quick
Neil Brooks - 01 Jan 2006 06:08 GMT
>>> I've heard about ultrasonic cleaners but can't find any.
>>> Were they a gimmick that failed to catch on?
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>is that they can/do generate heat (in the object being cleaned?).
>Would this be an issue for RGP materials?
I'd have to figure out where I read a review, but ... yes, somebody
said that the heat *was* an issue for RGP's, and could warp them.
IIRC, though, there are ultrasonic cleaners that have a "regular" and
a "strong" setting, with heat being the difference. ISTR reading that
the 'regular' setting was ok for lenses.
Might be worth a little Googling....
>I'd love for these things to work -- really appeals to my wont
>for gadgets.
Agreed :-)

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Mike Tyner - 01 Jan 2006 06:36 GMT
> 1) I don't expect military grade for $30 (more towards the
> not-quite-junk sort of thing) but is it possible to make
> an effective ultrasonic cleaner that sells for $30?
Ultrasonic cleaners can be pretty simple. The prices have always been
inflated by ingenuity and demand, rather than just a function of materials
and labor. As such, over the past 30 years the cost has come down
dramatically.
All that's really necessary is a circuit that generates alternating current
around 20 kHz or more, and a piezoelectric transducer made of lead zirconate
between two layers of tin. The transducer is usually bonded to a resonating
metal container. Better units use multiple transducers, welded instead of
glued, and circuits that generate frequency sweeps to avoid standing waves.
For $30 you probably won't get those features, nor will you get the more
durable "magnetostrictive" transducers. Piezo crystals wear out after a
while.
The cleaning action occurs because the vibration creates tiny cavitation
bubbles. When the bubbles collapse, they generate a tiny "squirt" which
travels about 400 km/hr over a microscopic distance.
> 2) My almost non-existant knowledge of ultrasonic cleaners
> is that they can/do generate heat (in the object being cleaned?).
> Would this be an issue for RGP materials?
Of course the transducers generate heat, but you'd have to place the lens
directly on the transducer without a surrounding bath, and that wouldn't
clean anything.
> I'd love for these things to work -- really appeals to my wont
> for gadgets.
They work ok, but not that much better than the "gadget" attached to your
hand. Your fingers don't cost any extra and you usually carry them with you.
-MT