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Charles - 27 Dec 2005 02:00 GMT
What do you folks think of computer glasses?  These would be glasses
with extra "plus" in them to take some of the strain off during
prolonged close work - for people who don't necessarily need them to
see clearly.  I was kind of wondering whether this is a totally
mainstream thing, or if it's controversial in the vein of the plus lens
debates that go on around here.
Mike Tyner - 27 Dec 2005 02:29 GMT
> What do you folks think of computer glasses?

They're great sometimes, for solving problems.

What problem are you solving?

-MT
William Stacy - 27 Dec 2005 02:36 GMT
> What do you folks think of computer glasses?  These would be glasses
> with extra "plus" in them to take some of the strain off during
> prolonged close work - for people who don't necessarily need them to
> see clearly.  I was kind of wondering whether this is a totally
> mainstream thing, or if it's controversial in the vein of the plus lens
> debates that go on around here.

A bit non-mainstream, but quite commonly done.  I sometimes do it if I
think it might help some symptoms that seem to relate to computer work.
 Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

w.stacy, o.d.
CatmanX - 27 Dec 2005 05:34 GMT
I agree with will and mike. They can be great if you are symptomatic,
but a waste of time otherwise. The strain as many people like to put it
can be postural, mental, internalised stress, not necessarily ocular.
This is why an eye test is required to establish if the eyes are the
source of the problem.

dr grant
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 27 Dec 2005 13:48 GMT
Aye!!!!!!!!! great idea to have a weaker pescription set aside on your
desk just for computer usage. Really helps take the strain off your
eyes and may make things clearer too. I am wearing -3.25 glasses for
the computer but my real pescription is more than that.
Dick Adams - 27 Dec 2005 14:06 GMT
> The strain as many people like to put it
> can be postural, mental, internalised stress, not necessarily ocular.
> This is why an eye test is required to establish if the eyes are the
> source of the problem.

Well, here are some tests you can do yourself.  If you can see well
for night driving, and read signs in the distance with both eyes and
either eye, and if you can see close objects in sharp focus, and if
you do not see double, your eyes are probably just fine.  You could
worry about glaucoma, but treatments for that can be worse than the
condition, and other things for which there's not much to be done.
You don't have to be very clever to check your own peripheral vision,
but most likely its just fine, and would not affect your computer-screen
sighting anyway.

> (Computer glasses) can be great if you are symptomatic,
> but a waste of time otherwise.

Well, like I mentioned in a past post, it is cheap to try, and all you need
to start is a Walgreens drug store.

--
DickyA
CatmanX - 27 Dec 2005 23:49 GMT
> Well, here are some tests you can do yourself.  If you can see well
> for night driving, and read signs in the distance with both eyes and
> either eye, and if you can see close objects in sharp focus, and if
> you do not see double, your eyes are probably just fine.

Actually, not quite Dicky. There is a lot more to it than that.
Alignment, ability to sustain the activity for the desired duration,
comprehension, amplitudes of accommodation and vergence and asthenopia
are not always that easy to pick. The idea of doing an eye test is to
assess these issues.

dr grant
The Real Bev - 28 Dec 2005 03:59 GMT
>> (Computer glasses) can be great if you are symptomatic, but a waste of
>> time otherwise.
>
> Well, like I mentioned in a past post, it is cheap to try, and all you need
> to start is a Walgreens drug store.

Or even better, the 99-Cents-Only store.  When they're in stock, the only
problem with their readers is that you may have to sand the frame mold-ridges
off for comfort.

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Dan Abel - 27 Dec 2005 08:39 GMT
> What do you folks think of computer glasses?  These would be glasses
> with extra "plus" in them to take some of the strain off during
> prolonged close work - for people who don't necessarily need them to
> see clearly.  I was kind of wondering whether this is a totally
> mainstream thing, or if it's controversial in the vein of the plus lens
> debates that go on around here.

My daughter got these.  She had problems with eye strain.  She doesn't
wear them too much, according to what she just said about 10 seconds ago.

Of course, many people are heavily dependent on computer glasses.  My
OTC reading glasses don't work for computer use.  However, my OTC
computer glasses work pretty well for light reading, so I use them for
that.  For fine print, like labels or newspapers, I use my reading
glasses.

I use +1.75 and +2.25 (sometimes +2.75 for the really fine print).  My
wife and kids make fun of me because I have so many glasses.  When you
have IOLs, you need a lot of help.

:-(

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Dick Adams - 27 Dec 2005 13:46 GMT
> What do you folks think of computer glasses?  These would be glasses
> with extra "plus" in them to take some of the strain off during
> prolonged close work - for people who don't necessarily need them to
> see clearly.  

Seems like a good idea to me.  Walgreens readers are cheap, certainly
worth a try.  Reading glasses that correct astigmatism cost more, but not
much more if you go the Hong Kong route.  Correcting mild astigmatism
does not, however, seem important for reading.

Glasses, for one thing, help keep the static electrical charge on old-fashioned
computer screens from sucking your eyeballs out.

With regard to those kinds of computer screens, a nearby humidifier is good
in very dry atmospheres, like indoors in the cold-country winters.

Since you are a computer guy, and possibly good for a wild ride, you
might consider how far apart your eyes are, how they converge when
for the computer screen, and how far away the screen is normally.  Then
specify base out prisms for your readers to put the screen at virtual
infinity convergencewise as well as optically.

I contend that, if Ace had done that when he was younger, he well might
not have gone magoo.  Might possibly, in your case, forestall adult
myopic progression, if you happen to be inclined towards that.

--
DickyA
(no OD, no MD, but not exactly dumb)
otisbrown@pa.net - 27 Dec 2005 20:38 GMT
Dear Charles,

Subject:  Computer glasses -- if vision is
20/50 -- by your own checking.

Assuming that your eyes are "normal"
in a health sense, but that you
just failed the DMV test (of 20/40),
you might find that "computer glasses"
of +2.0 diopters MIGHT help clear
your eye-chart to 20/30.

Some have done it -- and gotten
rid of their minus lens.

But that is how you MIGHT wish
to use "computer glasses".

Best,

Otis
CatmanX - 27 Dec 2005 23:51 GMT
Hey cletis, great prescribing.

Most computers sit around 65-70cm from the user, so you intend to give
a script with a far point of 50cm to them???????????

You really are dumber than you look.

dr grant
Neil Brooks - 28 Dec 2005 00:44 GMT
>Hey cletis, great prescribing.

[snip]

>You really are dumber than you look.

Dr. Grant-

I'm just not sure you're right.  A strong case could be made in either
direction.  You be the judge:

http://nbeener.com/Oda_May_Brown.html
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CatmanX - 28 Dec 2005 01:42 GMT
 
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