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pongo - 04 Dec 2005 01:43 GMT
is there a way to correct color blindness? What causes color blindness?
Why is it that I confuse only red and green, not other colors? Also,
why is there a common belief that color blindness is always seeing in
black and white?
salmonegg@sbcglobal.net - 04 Dec 2005 02:35 GMT
On 12/3/05 5:43 PM, in article
1133660616.994611.172850@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "pongo"
<redeemedmen@aol.com> wrote:

> is there a way to correct color blindness? What causes color blindness?
> Why is it that I confuse only red and green, not other colors? Also,
> why is there a common belief that color blindness is always seeing in
> black and white?

This is something you should google or look up in Wikipedia.  To summarize,
humans have three kinds of color receptors just as Maxwell said. You are
missing one of them. It is genetic, and nothing can be done about that. Some
color filters may change the way you do discriminate various colors, but I
would suspect that filters will not be very helpful.

Be thankful that you have two sets of color receptors. There are some people
who are missing all three and essentially see in just black and white. Even
worse, they have no central vision because they have no cones which contain
the color pigments necessary for color vision.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
Quick - 04 Dec 2005 05:53 GMT
> On 12/3/05 5:43 PM, in article
> 1133660616.994611.172850@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> have no central vision because they have no cones which
> contain the color pigments necessary for color vision.

I suspect there is more to it than that and more causes
than genetic. I used to have no problem with colors. Now
I don't do so well in lower light. For example I can't tell
if my pants in the closet are navy blue or black in the
morning. If I lay them next to each other I can tell them
apart if the navy blue isn't really dark. In sunlight or office
lighting I can tell. In short, my color sight has degraded
from what it was.

-Quick
salmonegg@sbcglobal.net - 04 Dec 2005 06:22 GMT
On 12/3/05 9:53 PM, in article
Nvvkf.26875$q%.12869@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com, "Quick"
<quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> I suspect there is more to it than that and more causes
> than genetic. I used to have no problem with colors. Now
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> lighting I can tell. In short, my color sight has degraded
> from what it was.

The inability to discriminate between navy blue and black cloth at low light
levels is not what color blindness is about. It is the inability to
discriminate between two colors far apart on the color triangle such as red
and green.

In my own situation, I seem to have lost some red receptors in my left eye
so that I have trouble seeing red traffic lights. While that is probably
irreversible, it is not genetic. True color blindness is genetic and sex
linked.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
acemanvx@yahoo.com - 04 Dec 2005 07:52 GMT
nothing can be done with colorblind for now. I have read research where
they can supposedly insert genes to make you grow new cones and youll
suddenly see colors you never saw before! Of course anything like that
could be decades away. In the meantime, one can learn to differenate
colors by contrast, hue and other clues
Mike Tyner - 04 Dec 2005 14:15 GMT
> In my own situation, I seem to have lost some red receptors in my left eye
> so that I have trouble seeing red traffic lights. While that is probably
> irreversible, it is not genetic. True color blindness is genetic and sex
> linked.

Decreased red saturation is a symptom of optic nerve disease. I've never
heard "lost receptors" as an explanation before.

-MT
salmonegg@sbcglobal.net - 04 Dec 2005 21:33 GMT
On 12/4/05 6:15 AM, in article
9SCkf.9626$wf.1023@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Mike Tyner"
<mtyner@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> In my own situation, I seem to have lost some red receptors in my left eye
>> so that I have trouble seeing red traffic lights. While that is probably
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> -MT

The cause was central retinal vein occlusion. I guess where the optic nerve
ends and the retina begins (distally) is a mater of definition.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 04 Dec 2005 14:36 GMT
do some reading on your own.  there is lots of info on this topic.

usually color blindnesses are not due to total loss of one of the three
pigments-- oftentimes a pigment is genetically mutated to have a
different absorption spectrum so it still functions but has an altered
physiology.

red-green discrimination is the most common type of problem encountered
color blindness.

because of the unfortunate name used-- i.e. "color blindness", a lay
person would take that literally to mean that an affected person is
blind regarding all color vision (i.e. sees only black and white).
such a condition is extremely rare.
 
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