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Hypertropia

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Scott - 12 Nov 2005 02:07 GMT
Hi,

Is this possible to just appear overnight... there is no physical
trauma. It
just appear and slight and appears to be there.

After what age should it supposed not to happen spontaneously?

Scott
otisbrown@pa.net - 12 Nov 2005 02:47 GMT
Dear Scott,

I assume that you mean hyperopia.

Most children are born hyperopic, (refractive status +1/2 to +8
diopters), thus there is no physical "trauma" to hyperopia.  Thus
hyperopia happens "spontaneously" at birth.

Perhaps you could describe what problem you have, and more of the
nature of your question.

Best,

Otis
Dom - 12 Nov 2005 11:14 GMT
> Dear Scott,
>
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> Otis

Otis he means hypertropia. I'm sure you are just trying to be helpful
but you are not qualified to answer questions on this newsgroup as your
attempt above demonstrates.

Dom
Mike Tyner - 12 Nov 2005 13:32 GMT
> Is this possible to just appear overnight... there is no physical
> trauma. It
> just appear and slight and appears to be there.
>
> After what age should it supposed not to happen spontaneously?

Do you mean you suddenly see double, or do you mean one eye looks higher
than the other in the mirror?

-MT
Dr. Leukoma - 12 Nov 2005 13:40 GMT
Otis is our resident self-appointed lay "expert."  Believe him at your
own risk.  He is correct about some things, but those are intertwined
with his personal fantasies.

One of the things he is correct about is the fact that most infants
come into the world as hyperopes so that the eye can adjust itself.
This process of adjustment is called emmetropization.  The average
amount of hyperopia is about 1.00 diopter at the age of two years, and
about 0.50 diopters at the age of four years.  For some people, this
process goes to far, and children become myopic.  Others who were born
more farsighted may remain hyperopic.  Children can normally
accommodate to substantial levels of hyperopia.  With age and waning
accommodation, the symptoms of farsighted begin to appear.  For an
adult who is only slightly farsighted, those symptoms typically begin
in the third decade.

Farsightedness is not without pathology.  It is the refractive
condition most likely to be associated with strabismus and amblyopia,
or lazy eye.  It is the refractive condition most likely to be
associated with vision-related learning problems.

DrG
drfrank21@gmail.com - 12 Nov 2005 23:01 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Scott

If you actually do have a hypertropia (vertical deviation of one eye),
you should get it checked out . A 4th cranial nerve palsy, for
instance,
can cause this type of deviation. It usually doesn't happen "out of the
blue"  (there can be exceptions when someone has a small amount
of this deviation and fatigue and/or age causes it to become more
manifest).  But again, a thorough evaluation is recommended.

frank
Scott - 13 Nov 2005 01:14 GMT
> > Hi,
> >
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>
> frank

Does Diplopia always occur when there is Hypertropia?

But I don't have any diplopia (or double vision). And the
Hypertropia is only very slight.. (about 1mm difference)
only. If there is no diplopia.. hypertropia can be ruled out, right?

I use the tilting the head to left and right side to test for
paresis of the superior and inferior oblique and rectus
muscles and no problem.

Is it possible some corneal (or lens) tilting can occur that
can make the eyeball tilt so that the the fovea is synchronize
with the other unaffected eye (or does this event doesn't
happen)?

scott
Mike Tyner - 13 Nov 2005 01:43 GMT
> Does Diplopia always occur when there is Hypertropia?

Yes, unless you were born that way.

> But I don't have any diplopia (or double vision).

Then either a) you don't have hypertropia or b) you've had it since birth.

> And the
> Hypertropia is only very slight.. (about 1mm difference)

A one-mm difference at the eye would be a pretty huge visual angle.

> only. If there is no diplopia.. hypertropia can be ruled out, right?
> I use the tilting the head to left and right side to test for
> paresis of the superior and inferior oblique and rectus
> muscles and no problem.

The best test for identifying hypertropia is the unilateral cover test.

Pick a spot on a blank wall across the room. Look at the spot with both
eyes.

Cover one eye, then uncover. Does the target jump up or down?

Cover the other eye, then uncover. Does the target jump up or down?

If you have hypertropia, the target will jump in one eye.

> Is it possible some corneal (or lens) tilting can occur that
> can make the eyeball tilt so that the the fovea is synchronize
> with the other unaffected eye (or does this event doesn't
> happen)?

Only the external muscles are used to move the entire eyeball to put images
on the fovea. The cornea and lens and fovea are all fixed along one line of
sight.

-MT

> scott
Scott - 13 Nov 2005 04:34 GMT
> > Does Diplopia always occur when there is Hypertropia?
>
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> If you have hypertropia, the target will jump in one eye.

I did the test. At a distance of 4-7 meters, the target jump from left
to right. Is this normal. If not, what is the condition called?

Scott

> > Is it possible some corneal (or lens) tilting can occur that
> > can make the eyeball tilt so that the the fovea is synchronize
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>
> > scott
Mike Tyner - 13 Nov 2005 05:15 GMT
> I did the test. At a distance of 4-7 meters, the target jump from left
> to right. Is this normal. If not, what is the condition called?

If you're doing the unilateral cover test, it might mean you have a
horizontal tropia.

But no vertical movement means no hypertropia.

-MT
Scott - 13 Nov 2005 08:45 GMT
> > I did the test. At a distance of 4-7 meters, the target jump from left
> > to right. Is this normal. If not, what is the condition called?
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>
> -MT

What's the cure for horizontal hypertropia?

Should I visit an opthalmologist or optometrists with this? When I
visited
them before. No tests of such kind were made by either of them.

Sct.
Mike Tyner - 13 Nov 2005 09:56 GMT
> What's the cure for horizontal hypertropia?

Horizontal tropias are called "esotropia" (="crossed eyes") and "exotropia"
(="walleyed").

I'm not convinced you have either one.

If you can see stereo images like the Viewmaster or 3-D movies, then you
probably don't have any tropia at all.

"Tropia" means you can't use both eyes simultaneously. Can you use both eyes
simultaneously?

-MT
Scott - 13 Nov 2005 12:40 GMT
> > What's the cure for horizontal hypertropia?
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>
> -MT

Of course I can use simultaneously.

Maybe it's just Psytropia.

Thanks for the assistance.

Scott
 
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