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floaters darkened a bit after pupil dilation, plausible?

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Kyle - 28 Oct 2005 18:39 GMT
Hi,

I noticed a very small subtle (~2%) darkening of point size
floaters after pupil dilation was initiated by the
ophthalmologist to see inside my retina.

Is it possible that pupil dilation which I read can cause
very small interocular pressure can press or compress some
portion of floaters making them darker?

Is this plausible or not possible at all? I can't get
in touch with the opthalmology because he was out of the
country.

kyle
doctor_my_eye@msn.com - 28 Oct 2005 21:35 GMT
When you "see" your floaters, you are not actually seeing the floater
itself, but instead you are seeing a shadow that the floater casts on
your retina.  So, when you have a thorough dilated examination the
vitreous can be stirred up enough to move the floater forward or
backward from your retina.  As you know when making finger puppet
shadows with kids, the longer the distance from the puppet to the
screen, the bigger the image.
Hence, a floater moving slightly closer to the front of the eye will
cast a LARGER SHADOW, hence appearing bigger.  So, the dilation did not
physically change the size of your floater, but only the image of it
that you see..
Kyle - 29 Oct 2005 00:12 GMT
> When you "see" your floaters, you are not actually seeing the floater
> itself, but instead you are seeing a shadow that the floater casts on
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> physically change the size of your floater, but only the image of it
> that you see..

Gee. Know any method (such as shaking my head intensely) so I can
bring the floaters farther from the retina (more forward to the
front or lens)? I didn't know dilated examination can move it. Is
there any chance it can create new ones by solidfying a bit?

Kyle
doctor_my_eye@msn.com - 29 Oct 2005 02:05 GMT
There is no "scientific method" top move your floaters.  But, the "old
farm wife's remedy" for floaters is to prop your forehead on your
pillow and sleep face down for a month.  In theory, you are using
gravity to pull your floaters into the front lower third of your
vitreous, which is away from your visual axis.
I personally never slept face down for a whole night, let alone every
night for a month.  Something about suffocation makes me flip over in
my sleep. ;)
> > When you "see" your floaters, you are not actually seeing the floater
> > itself, but instead you are seeing a shadow that the floater casts on
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>
> Kyle
doctor_my_eye@msn.com - 29 Oct 2005 02:08 GMT
There is no "scientific method" TO MOVE.....   (typing too fast.
sorry.)
Kyle - 29 Oct 2005 07:02 GMT
> There is no "scientific method" top move your floaters.  But, the "old
> farm wife's remedy" for floaters is to prop your forehead on your
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> >
> > Kyle

What dictates whether the floaters would move front or back during
pupil dilation drops?? If there is tendency to move back near
the retina. Does it mean after every pupil dilation sessions,
your floaters can get nearer the retina. There must be some
dynamics involved that can make the floaters move back or front
in pupil dilation, what is that.

I'm asking because I may have an Optic Coherence Tomograph. Does
this OCT scan include 360 degree scan such that every point of
the retina is scanned??

I'd like to have full analysis of my retina. Can the OCT see
micro retinal tear?

kyle

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