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3n5dad - 12 Oct 2005 21:49 GMT
Hi, I am 33 yrs. old and I have had strabismus all my life.  I had two
surgeries before the age of five, which did not turn out well.

I then had  Dr Marshall Parks perform surgery around twelve years of
age which turned out perfectly.  For approx. fifteen years I forgot I
even had the problem.  They rarely deviated and when they didnit was
not noticable.  He was a great surgeon.

Five years ago I had trouble with my left eye turning and I had a local
oph. try to correct, he operated on my right eye and after the surgery
I could not tell any differance, it still drifted inward.  I left it
alone for about four years and in April let him try again this time he
operated on my left eye.  Now my right eye is extremely exo and my left
eye is still eso..  Prior to the surgery my right eye was fine but now
it constantly drtifts in, up, and way out..

I have met wit ha second oph. who is telling me that I am farsighted
and wants to put me in glasses +1.25 and perform an adjustable suture
surgery.  He says it will fix the right eye but that the left may still
drift inward.

Does anyone know a qualified surgeon in the tristate area of Richmond
Virignia???????

This problem is severely affecting my work.  I am a sales manager who
is now finding it difficult to look people in the eye........
Neil Brooks - 12 Oct 2005 22:02 GMT
>Hi, I am 33 yrs. old

I'm 41.  

>I have had strabismus all my life.  

Me, too.  Fun, huh?

>I had two
>surgeries before the age of five, which did not turn out well.

I've had three surgeries, but this isn't really a competition <g>

>I then had  Dr Marshall Parks perform surgery around twelve years of
>age which turned out perfectly.  For approx. fifteen years I forgot I
>even had the problem.  They rarely deviated and when they didnit was
>not noticable.  He was a great surgeon.

I saw Parks less than ten years ago.  While, doubtless, he's retired
by now, he may still be a good contact for referrals.  FWIW, he wasn't
able to even diagnose my primary issue (tenacious ciliary spasm), much
less treat it.  I found him condescending and dismissive, though his
reputation is clearly stellar for strabismus.

>Five years ago I had trouble with my left eye turning and I had a local
>oph. try to correct, he operated on my right eye and after the surgery
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>surgery.  He says it will fix the right eye but that the left may still
>drift inward.

The farsightedness shouldn't be causing EXotropia (accommodatin
usually leads to an inward turn), but--with alignment issues--needs to
be appropriately managed.

>Does anyone know a qualified surgeon in the tristate area of Richmond
>Virignia???????

David Guyton, Wilmer Eye Institute, Johns Hopkins.  One of the best in
the land.  I saw him on several occasions.

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/wilmer/employees/cvs/Guyton.html

>This problem is severely affecting my work.  I am a sales manager who
>is now finding it difficult to look people in the eye.

I was in customer-facing jobs for years.  I know what you mean.

Get hooked up with Dave Guyton.  He's good.  Or, fly out here to San
Diego and see the guy who--IMHO--could kick /all/ their a$$es: David
Granet:

http://eyesite.ucsd.edu/faculty/granet.htm

According to Granet (he did my #3 surgery in 1998), I actually
invented the adjustable suture method <takes bow> :-)

Good luck.

Neil
3n5dad - 13 Oct 2005 22:01 GMT
Hi Neil

Thanks for all the input, its very helpful.  I called Dr Guyton today
and the earliest he can see me is Feb (WOW) he must be really good.

I have another question that I am hoping you can help me with.  Why is
it that when I put +1.25 glasses on, my right eye shoots all the way
into the right corner ,and with them off it is only off by a few mm.?
My left eye actually straightens up with them on, and with them off it
is in the right corner.

Thanks again
Peter Jason - 24 Nov 2005 05:15 GMT
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>>Hi, I am 33 yrs. old
>
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>
> Neil
Neil Brooks - 24 Nov 2005 19:12 GMT
>q

Peter-

I don't know what to say to that.  

If you're talking Scrabble, a "Q" is worth ten points.

I guess I counter with: "Z"

Yours,

Neil
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Scott Seidman - 12 Oct 2005 23:39 GMT
"3n5dad" <icricks@comcast.net> wrote in news:1129150149.187799.188180
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> Does anyone know a qualified surgeon in the tristate area of Richmond
> Virignia???????

Neil Miller, in Baltimore

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David Robins, MD - 15 Oct 2005 05:49 GMT
On 10/12/05 3:39 PM, in article
Xns96EDBDBBB3008scottseidmanmindspri@130.133.1.4, "Scott Seidman"
<namdiesttocs@mindspring.com> wrote:

> "3n5dad" <icricks@comcast.net> wrote in news:1129150149.187799.188180
> @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
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>
> Neil Miller, in Baltimore

Neil R. Miller, at the Wilmer Ophthalmologic Institute in Baltimore, is a
very well-known neuro-ophthalmologist, not a strabismologist.

(I knew him when I trained at Wilmer with David Guyton, a strabismologist.)
Scott Seidman - 17 Oct 2005 13:42 GMT
> On 10/12/05 3:39 PM, in article
> Xns96EDBDBBB3008scottseidmanmindspri@130.133.1.4, "Scott Seidman"
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> (I knew him when I trained at Wilmer with David Guyton, a
> strabismologist.)

My mistake.  He's a pretty good orbital surgeon, and I thought his practice
included strabismus.

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Dr. Leukoma - 17 Oct 2005 15:36 GMT
It has been my observation that most neuro-ophthalmologists also
perform strabismus surgery, which leads to turf wars in some cases, I
guess.

DrG
David Robins, MD - 18 Oct 2005 06:08 GMT
On 10/17/05 7:36 AM, in article
1129559813.314054.288310@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "Dr. Leukoma"
<drg@leukoma.com> wrote:

> It has been my observation that most neuro-ophthalmologists also
> perform strabismus surgery, which leads to turf wars in some cases, I
> guess.
>
> DrG

Tend to do some strab surgery. Some do more than others. A lot of them do do
the simpler stuff. (Dr. Miller used to come around and ask Dr. Guyton about
surgery to do for a specific case ( but that was when I was at Wilmer, about
20 years ago.)
Scott Seidman - 18 Oct 2005 13:17 GMT
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote in news:1129559813.314054.288310
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

> It has been my observation that most neuro-ophthalmologists also
> perform strabismus surgery, which leads to turf wars in some cases, I
> guess.
>
> DrG

There are a variety of paths to neuro-ophth.  You can train primarily as a
neurologist, or primarily as an ophthalmologist.  I only know one guy who
actually did both.

In any case, those who go through the ophthalmologist route tend to have
more procedure-based practices.

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Dr. Leukoma - 18 Oct 2005 13:51 GMT
> In any case, those who go through the ophthalmologist route tend to have
> more procedure-based practices.

Yes, of course.  However, my sample size is limited as there have never
been more than two neuro-ophthalmologists in the city of Dallas for
most of my career.  They always did strabismus surgery on traumatic or
acute onset strabismus, which is the type of patient they typically see
following car wrecks, patients falling out of second story windows onto
their heads (I had one of those), etc.

DrG
David Robins, MD - 18 Oct 2005 06:06 GMT
On 10/17/05 5:42 AM, in article
Xns96F258A59F64scottseidmanmindspri@130.133.1.4, "Scott Seidman"
<namdiesttocs@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> On 10/12/05 3:39 PM, in article
>> Xns96EDBDBBB3008scottseidmanmindspri@130.133.1.4, "Scott Seidman"
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> My mistake.  He's a pretty good orbital surgeon, and I thought his practice
> included strabismus.

He does do SOME strabismus (mainly the easier stuff, as far as I know) , but
that is not his main expertise.

For complicated strabismus, see a strabismus specialist ...
 
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