Dear DrG,
Subject: Independence of mind.
Re: Your right to an informed choice, or second-opinion.
Re: Your right to turn-down the second-opinion with an understanding
of the consequences to you and your children.
Re: Your right to evaluate the experimental data itself -- concerning
the proven dynamic behavior of the primate eye. (Input versus output
verification.)
Re: The "honest" difficulties of prevention shouid be understood by
the person considering "prevention" for his child.
To further respond:
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DrG> Were Otis and Steven Leung cohorts, or did Otis manipulate Steven
Leung
just as he has manipulated the facts, and tried to manipulate others?
Otis> I present the facts concerning the dyinamic behavior of the
natural eye VERY ACCURATELY. Anyone who understands the design of
sophisticated system will EVENTUALLY understand these facts.
This does take time, and it is not possible to reduce an objective
understanding of these facts into an
IMMEDIATE fix for the plublic walking in off the street. In my
opinion, a person should be informed of these facts, and offered a
choice in the matter, and should sign an agreement acknowledging that
this information has been made avalaible to them -- and that they are
turining it down and will accept the "secondary consequence" of wearing
an over-prescribed minus all the time. A statement of that nature
would clear the are -- so to speak.
DrG> I remember all too well how he contacted me via email,
"innocently"
soliciting my thoughts on plus lenses and such. Soon therafter, he
published my comments totally out of context.
Otis> You are free to make any statement that you wish.
DrG> IF Otis did indeed lure Steven Leung into endorsing plus lens
therapy,
Otis> No way! Steve Leung is an intelligent person who supports BOTH
METHODS. He has seen enough experimental data to convince him that he
should take actions to PROTECT HIS OWN CHILDREN by following the
methods advocated by T. Grosvenor and many others. He is completely
aware of the consequences FOR HIS OWN CHILDREN of not helping them with
this proven preventive step. For others (on the threshold) he will
offer them a choice. If they turn it down, then the minus lens is in
fact very simple and very easy. Offering an "honest" choice -- where
the parents can research this prevetive concept is the right way to do
it.
DrG> then perhaps Otis ought to be a co-defendant in his legal case.
Otis> Provided that the parents are completely informed of this
choice, and sign and agreement of understanding, then I do not think
that there is any problem with the second-opinion. The "easy" way is
by neglect. It is like falling off a log. If you don't like
prevention -- then don't do it. But do not complain about the
stair-case myopia (-1/2 diopter per year) that is the result of neglect
followed by the over-prescription of a minus lens.
Otis> The concept of the second-opinion has a long history in
medicine. It has ALWAYS BEEN ATTACKED by the status-quo. I am
ceretain that you BELIVE that the natural eye is not dynamic
(sophisticated eye), and the because of your belief-system, the natural
eye CAN NOT CHANGE ITS REFRACTIVE STATE AS THE ACCOMMODATION SIGNAL IS
CHANGED.
Otis> When the results of DIRECT TESTING are done, these scientific
results do not support the traditional merthod of the last 400 years.
While you can contnue practicing your "beliefs" that still is the
"majority opinion" and there are a large number of direct-facts that do
not support the traditional method (and consequences) of the last 400
years. That does suggest the need for "change" for the person who is
educated to accept change. And that is an issue for the person to
decide -- as an offered "second opinion".
Best,
Otis
DrG
otisbrown@pa.net - 02 Oct 2005 04:42 GMT
Dear DrG,
Subject: Remarks on the Chinese studies.
Re: My motivation to help my nephew take
over "control" of his distant vision -- for
life.
Since you asked for the reasons why
I support a TRUE "second-opinion" then
the reason were to help my nephew
take actions to completel "end" his
near environment by STRONG
use of the plus -- whenever it
was necessary as spelled out
below.
Clearly you could NEVER "prescribe"
this motivation, and only a person
with this type of motivation can
be successful with prevention.
Enjoy!
Otis
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Dear Prevention minded friends,
Subject: Keith's vision from a 13 years old to age 40. Now 20/15!
From detailed discussions with Dr. J. Raphaelson it became
clear to me that the person himself would have to make AGRESSIVE
use of the plus BEFORE he began to wear the minus lens -- or
suffer serious consequences.
I knew from the bi-focals (plus) studies that when the
single-minus is placed on the natural eye -- its refractive status
moves steadily downward at a rate of -1/2 diopter per year --
average.
Strong use of the plus STOPPED this movement. For this
reason I advocated the strong use of the plus by the person who
wishes to keep his vision at a level that ALWAYS passes all legal
visual requirements -- by his own checking.
Keith started this process when he was 13 years old. He
would periodically notice that his distant vision was getting
"blurry" in college. Taking responsibility himself, he simply
"re-started" the intensive use of the plus until he exceeded the
legal requirement for driving a care, i.e., reading 1.8 cm letters
at 6 meters.
Keith understood the "trade-off", involved. Use the plus
before you fail the DMV, and you will never REQUIRE a minus lens.
While on vacation with Keith recently, I noticed he still used the
plus to read the newspaper and other work of this nature. I had
no idea what his eye-chart was -- and mostly Keith did not check.
Here is his statement of his current eye-chart check.
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Dear Keith,
As you know, I take PERSONAL responsibility for the "dumb"
things I did with my eyes as a young child. Like that "bad
habit", of leaning forward and reading at 4 inches (-10 diopters)
for long periods of time. The ODs and MDs love to tell us there
is no relationship between refractive state -- and environment.
They are totally, and scientifically wrong on this issue --
and very biased about it.
However the general public will NOT ACCEPT advocacy for
prevention, and so the medical-myth must grind on -- and grind-up
a massive proportion of young children's eyes. It is tragic that
these ODs will not VOLUNTEER information about the natural eye's
behavior as a matter of professional course and responsibility. I
have long ago given up attempting to deal with that issue.
It is only important that you have done this work correctly,
and therefore successfully. Problems like this are "solved" at
the family level -- not by large institutions.
I tell you this so you may protect your own children. It is
difficult for a parent to "enforce" something like this on their
own children -- but I think they will "get the idea" in time.
Eventually the child himself must get the idea if he is to
retain clear distant vision through college.
.
Otis
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Dear Uncle,
I've been a bit more diligent in the last couple of months
using the plus and I've noticed an improvement in my distance
vision.
The point of telling you something you already know? Haley
went for her 4-year-old check up at the MD and they checked her
hearing and vision so I checked my vision too, on a 10 foot chart.
Low and behold, my left eye was able to read the 20/15 line and my
right eye, although not necessarily clear, was able to read the
20/20 line!
Both together made the 20/15 line of course. As you know I
don't check regularly so it was surprising that I'm back to that
good.
A nice surprise.
Keith
Mike Tyner - 02 Oct 2005 04:55 GMT
> Clearly you could NEVER "prescribe"
> this motivation, and only a person
> with this type of motivation can
> be successful with prevention.
Of course when it fails, it's their fault.
Enjoy!
-MT
Mike Tyner - 02 Oct 2005 04:53 GMT
> Otis> I present the facts concerning the dyinamic behavior of the
> natural eye VERY ACCURATELY.
You present conclusions based on non-representative samples.
> Anyone who understands the design of
> sophisticated system will EVENTUALLY understand these facts.
And anyone who actually measures human myopia will question them.
> opinion, a person should be informed of these facts, and offered a
> choice in the matter, and should sign an agreement acknowledging that
> this information has been made avalaible to them
Yes.. you want warning labels on minus lenses. BTW, any progress on Rehm's
FDA petition?
>-- and that they are
> turining it down and will accept the "secondary consequence" of wearing
> an over-prescribed minus all the time.
Yes, but you actually believe it happens. You know, eventually the FDA will
get around to asking real doctors and doing their own Medline searches, and
you know what they're going to say, don't you?
> eye CAN NOT CHANGE ITS REFRACTIVE STATE AS THE ACCOMMODATION SIGNAL IS
> CHANGED.
Sorta tough to believe when they induce the same change in animals who lack
accommodation, or have their optic nerves severed.
No wait that was animals...
> Otis> When the results of DIRECT TESTING are done, these scientific
> results do not support the traditional merthod of the last 400 years.
So, you think all species behave the same at all stages of development. Okey
dokey.
-MT