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Any presbyopia Lasik treatment?

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Georgeous Gertrude - 20 Sep 2005 18:02 GMT
Is there any surgery that helps presbyopia? I heard a
few years ago they were working on something.
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 20 Sep 2005 18:45 GMT
try fasting, taking Bilberry plus Vitamin A, and use plus lens reader
24/7
Georgeous Gertrude - 21 Sep 2005 01:35 GMT
> try fasting, taking Bilberry plus Vitamin A, and use plus lens reader
> 24/7

:)  Good one!  Didn't anyone else read about this?  Some sort of  
presbyopia lasik/surgery or something.  Can you imagine what older people  
(with most of the world's money) would pay for something like that?
otisbrown@pa.net - 20 Sep 2005 18:50 GMT
Dear Georgeous,

Subject:  It is an ill wind that does
not blow SOME good.

I don't know how old your are, but
the range of travel (stop-to-stop)
just becomes less and less with
age.

For those who have had 20/20 up
to 45 will find some slight blur
at near -- thus the "plus"  reader.

If you are SLIGHTLY nearsighed,
say pass the DMV with
20/40, you will keep
you near vision perhaps
to age 55.

But that is the "price" of
age.

Best,

Otis
Neil Brooks - 20 Sep 2005 19:02 GMT
>Dear Georgeous,

>Subject:  It is an ill wind that does
>not blow SOME good.

I don't know what that means, but then: I never know what Otis means.

Meanwhile, there are some new procedures, known as SRP (Surgical
Reversal of Presbyopia) that may hold some promise:

http://www.emedicine.com/oph/topic735.htm

(You can use the terms "SRP" and "Surgical Reversal of Presbyopia" to
do further online research).

Others use a contact lens-based monovision arrangement (setting one
eye for near work, the other for distance) with success.

Still others use reading glasses.  Not a lot of downside there ;-)
Robert Kopp - 21 Sep 2005 07:00 GMT
> Dear Georgeous,
>
> Subject:  It is an ill wind that does
> not blow SOME good.

The loss of focusing ability has no advantages.

I've heard of people having, or at least considering, a Crystalens implant
even though they did not have cataracts. But that hardly seems worth the
risk and expense when a $10 pair of reading glasses will take care of the
problem.
William Stacy - 21 Sep 2005 15:35 GMT
Except when the presbyope also has significant hyperopia and/or
astigmatism, both of which can be "taken care of" early, and eliminating
the need for cataract surgery later in life.  I'm not a fan of
cristalens, rather prolate technis iols with slight mono result for
those folks.

w.stacy, o.d.

> I've heard of people having, or at least considering, a Crystalens implant
> even though they did not have cataracts. But that hardly seems worth the
> risk and expense when a $10 pair of reading glasses will take care of the
> problem.
William Stacy - 20 Sep 2005 19:34 GMT
Clear lens exchange aka refractive lens exchange, works well for
hyperopic presbyopia; for myopic presbyopia, monovision lasik is
available, in which case I target plano for one eye and -1.00 for the
other. Astigmatic corrections are available with either procedure.  If
you are already -1.00 in one eye, a monocular procedure is advised.

w.stacy, o.d.

> Is there any surgery that helps presbyopia? I heard a
> few years ago they were working on something.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 20 Sep 2005 20:15 GMT
The short answer is no. There is no surgery that can correct
presbyopia. At best, there are techniques that can work around the
problem, but they are limited.

Of course reading glasses and bifocals are the most popular technique
of dealing with presbyopia. Monovision is tolerated well by about
2/3rds of patients who try it and can be accomplished with contacts or
refractive surgery.

Removing the natural lens inside the eye and replacing it with a
multifocal intraocular lens (IOL) is gaining popularity, but in the
FDA trials about 20% of patients had halo and glare problems.

The new Crystalens IOL is designed to change focus and restore
accommodation, but the range is very limited and it does not work for
everyone.

Although there are still a few doctors who will do Surgical Reversal
of Presbyopia with scleral implants or relaxation incisions, the
science behind this is iffy at best, and results are just as iffy.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
Howard D. - 21 Sep 2005 01:46 GMT
Great answer.  Thanks.

> The short answer is no. There is no surgery that can correct
> presbyopia. At best, there are techniques that can work around the
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> I am not a doctor.
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 21 Sep 2005 01:56 GMT
I'm glad to be of service. Sorry I didn't have the answer you were
looking for, but it is better to know now than after surgery.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
toller - 22 Sep 2005 19:13 GMT
I asked my opthamologist about this last week.  He said it would be a
mistake to screw with anything now.  In about two years he thinks they
will have a multifocal lense implant perfected, and it will be worth
waiting for.
Georgeous Gertrude - 23 Sep 2005 14:28 GMT
> I asked my opthamologist about this last week.  He said it would be a
> mistake to screw with anything now.  In about two years he thinks they
> will have a multifocal lense implant perfected, and it will be worth
> waiting for.

That sounds interesting....any weblinks?
Glenn - USAEyes.org - 23 Sep 2005 16:41 GMT
It would probably be at something like www.WhenPigsFly.com

The problem with multifocal anything is that the transition from one
area of focality to another always causes light scatter. That light
scatter can reduce contrast sensitivity, cause blur, and crate halos
around light sources when you are in a low light environment.
Sometimes even in bright light.

Unless the physics of optics somehow change, all multifocal lenses are
going to have these limitations, albeit at different amounts with
different designs and with different levels of acceptance with
different patients.

The newest jump into the multifocal fray is the ReStor "apodized" IOL.
The center of the IOL is multifocal while the mid-periphery and
periphery is single focal. The theory is that when the pupils are
large in low light environments, the single focal portion will
contribute less halos and haze. Perhaps, but the FDA trials showed a
20% halo rate, and that is with excellent surgeons and very, very,
very careful patient selection.

Presbyopia correction has been the Holy Grail of refractive surgery
for decades. Thus far everything that works at all comes with some
compromise in vision quality. That may be perfectly fine for some (I
use monovision) but totally unacceptable for others.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
 
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