It has been reported that one can see the action of white blood cells when
(for example) looking at a clear blue sky. Is there any reason the red ones
can't be seen?
Don W.
Mike Tyner - 16 Sep 2005 18:05 GMT
> It has been reported that one can see the action of white blood cells
> when (for example) looking at a clear blue sky. Is there any reason the
> red ones can't be seen?
Red cells are smaller, but not drastically so. I don't believe you can see
individual white blood cells this way.
In a bright blue sky, you're seeing bits and clumps of vitreous fibers and
remnants of embryonic structures.
-MT
William Stacy - 16 Sep 2005 20:22 GMT
You'll get different answers on this, but I don't think you can. What
some people *think* are white blood cells are probably some sort of
neuro-chemical feedback or "noise" that is happening somewhere between
the retina and the occipital cortex.
w.stacy, o.d.
> It has been reported that one can see the action of white blood cells when
> (for example) looking at a clear blue sky. Is there any reason the red ones
> can't be seen?
>
> Don W.
Don W - 17 Sep 2005 01:21 GMT
Applegate has a patent on a scheme that tracks the leucocytes to get a
handle on the avascular zone of the macula.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5016643.html
Don W.
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 17 Sep 2005 03:18 GMT
there is a device that I believe applegate developed that uses a blue
rotating polarized light source that you can look into that allows WBC
visualization as the cells passing single-file through the retinal
vasculature. it can also be observed looking into a blue sky. WBCs
have a nucleus, while RBCs do not. the presence of a dense nucleus
within the cells allows visual discrimination between the two cell
types due to its refractile characteristics.
Don W - 17 Sep 2005 07:20 GMT
> there is a device that I believe applegate developed that uses a blue
> rotating polarized light source that you can look into that allows WBC
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> within the cells allows visual discrimination between the two cell
> types due to its refractile characteristics.
I have myself noticed the fleeting white corpuscles (flashing spots)
against a blue sky in the avascular outside of the fovea zone. I have an
ARMD lesion. And through the grayish lesion (which is outside the fovea) I
can see a scintillation (shimmering) against a clear blue sky. I am
suspecting that this is gross vascular activity.
Incidentally, looking at a clear blue sky may duplicate the blue field
entoptoscope that Applegate mentions since the blue sky is polarized. But
that device has a chance to see cells inside the macular region (??). That
I have not seen against a clear blue sky.
Applegate mentions in his patent that he was shooting for the home market.
I wonder if he ever made it?
Don W.