private docs don't like walmart or sams. they undersell them with
products of similar quality plus stand behind their products better
than any private doc can afford to (refunds without question if
customers have problems adjusting, etc.). it is definitely unfair to
lump walmart/sams in the same sentence with internet shops who aren't
even offering high index lenses anyway (but thats a point that is
beyond Otis anyway).
Independent optical labs can offer more variety of lens types, and I would
also say higher quality lenses, than Walmart or Sams. Nevertheless, those
retail outlets do indeed have good quality lenses (Zeiss, Rodenstock, Sola,
Nikon, etc.). They just don't have as much variety.
> private docs don't like walmart or sams. they undersell them with
> products of similar quality plus stand behind their products better
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> even offering high index lenses anyway (but thats a point that is
> beyond Otis anyway).
Mark A - 17 Sep 2005 04:02 GMT
> Independent optical labs can offer more variety of lens types, and I would
> also say higher quality lenses, than Walmart or Sams. Nevertheless, those
> retail outlets do indeed have good quality lenses (Zeiss, Rodenstock,
> Sola, Nikon, etc.). They just don't have as much variety.
Wal-Mart/Sams has their own "independent" lab. They could make any lens they
want, but they limit their line of lenses somewhat, but probably not much
different than other labs. The difference with independent optical, is that
they can use multiple different labs.
Same thing is pretty much true of Wal-Mart Superstore/Sams line of grocery
items that they stock. They do carry a lot of high quality items, but not
nearly as many different items as most large grocery stores. Of course,
their prices are about 15-30% cheaper for the items they do carry.
p.clarkii@gmail.com - 17 Sep 2005 05:18 GMT
walmart/sams labs are definitely not independent. they are wholely
owned by walmart. in fact they are the third largest optical lab chain
in the country. they do have a variety of lenses but mostly based upon
deals they have set up with specific suppliers. they cannot just make
glasses with any kind of lens. they do have a rather complete supply
of premium to discount lenses that fulfil the needs of most people but
not everything.
Mark A - 17 Sep 2005 09:19 GMT
> walmart/sams labs are definitely not independent. they are wholely
> owned by walmart. in fact they are the third largest optical lab chain
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> of premium to discount lenses that fulfil the needs of most people but
> not everything.
When I said that Wal-Mart had their own "independent" lab, I put that in
quotes to mean it operates just like an independent lab that makes lenses
from different lens manufacturers, even though technically it is not an
independent lab servicing independent optical shops. The lenses they make
are sold under the brand name of the manufacturer such as Sola, Varilux,
etc, and presumably they could make just about any brand of lens they wanted
to (except those that are only made in labs owned by the lens manufacturer).
This is contrast to chains like LensCrafters which sell private label lenses
(although you can special order some brand name lenses from Lenscrafters at
exorbitant prices).
RM - 17 Sep 2005 13:54 GMT
> etc, and presumably they could make just about any brand of lens they
> wanted
This is the part of your reply that I think is wrong. Not all parameters
are available throught Walmart/Sams compared to what a real independent lab,
who can order lens blanks from any manufacturer, has access to.
I am not sure at all about Lenscrafters, etc.