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Rimless with High Rx - some say yes and some say no

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john@munsey.net - 03 Sep 2005 20:15 GMT
I am in Houston Texas USA

My Rx is:
R -7.5/-0.75/096
L -7.25/-1.25/097

Many of the traditional shops in town say rimless won't look good even
with the super high index lenses.  Other "specialty" shops say they
specialize in it.  Soem have even said they have lab people custom
grind them to make them as thin as possible w/o compromising safety
much.

Fortunately one of the shops say they do these enough that I should be
able to see a sampe near my Rx soon.

In any case, what is the deal?  Ehat should I expect?
Robert Martellaro - 06 Sep 2005 22:30 GMT
>I am in Houston Texas USA
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>In any case, what is the deal?  Ehat should I expect?

Eye of the beholder. The thinnest lens for this Rx will probably be Sola's
Vizio/atoric/1.67. Another good choice that has a better AR coat than the Vizio
is Hoya's 1.70. Both lenses should be less than 5mm thick in a small frame.

Do not "roll the edges". Polish is ok. Must be AR coated. Ask to see an example
in the type of frame that you are interested in.

Hope this helps,

Robert Martellaro
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Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
robopt@execpc.com
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"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
 - Niels Bohr
john@munsey.net - 08 Sep 2005 15:40 GMT
Thanks, I have what I think is Hoya's 1.70 or 1.71 that I got in 2001
on frames sized 43.  While they are ok in thickness I'd like something
thinner.  Is this the best they can do in the USA in the 21st century?

Also, the AR coating has completely failed after 4 years.

What about Essilor's products with Crizal Alizé ?

If I have to I am willing to fly to Japan or wherever for thinner
lenses.  Where can I get the thinnest without getting too ridiculously
unsafe.  Keep in mind I will have a 2nd or 3rd pair of glasses for
situations where safety might be an issue.

> >I am in Houston Texas USA
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> "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
>   - Niels Bohr
Robert Martellaro - 08 Sep 2005 22:15 GMT
>Thanks, I have what I think is Hoya's 1.70 or 1.71 that I got in 2001
>on frames sized 43.  While they are ok in thickness I'd like something
>thinner.  Is this the best they can do in the USA in the 21st century?

Yes.

>Also, the AR coating has completely failed after 4 years.

The newer coatings have a very low failure rate as long as the coatings are used
on approved (generally non-scratch coated surfaces) lenses.

>What about Essilor's products with Crizal Alizé ?

I've been using Crizal for almost 5 years without one failure. Alize is the same
coating with an improved hydrophobic layer that is very easy to clean, maybe
easier than uncoated lenses. Zeiss Advantage is its equal along with a handful
of other manufactuers.

>If I have to I am willing to fly to Japan or wherever for thinner
>lenses.  Where can I get the thinnest without getting too ridiculously
>unsafe.  Keep in mind I will have a 2nd or 3rd pair of glasses for
>situations where safety might be an issue.

You don't have to go that far, north of the border will do. 1.74 is the thinnest
plastic and 1.9 Zeiss glass is the thinnest period. Define unsafe.

Robert Martellaro
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Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
robopt@execpc.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
 - Niels Bohr
john@munsey.net - 13 Sep 2005 03:16 GMT
1.74 should be in the USA this year I believe.  The 1.9's can't be done
in rimless right?  That is my goal - super thin in rimless.  My 1.70s
are ok in my current rimmed ones.

What is safe?  In these glasses will be no sports or aggressive
activity - I will use contacts for that, even though they bug my eyes a
lot.  My main concern is for instances that are out of my control, such
as an airbag in the car smacking me in the face.  Could that shatter
the lenses?
 
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