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Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 31 Aug 2005 04:30 GMT Thank you to all ODs and friend who support me with their feedback, yes it just didn't sink in well with me to get the PRK with this prescription. Military OD at Hawaii who would perform the surgery denied to do so. I got the email. I am not that upset but I have some concerns, I'd appreciate some feedback.
He said* "Sorry, but we have decided not to do refractions this low. Our cut off is a -1.50 spherical equivalent. The results on anything below this usually are not worthwhile and sometimes the risk is greater than the benefit." * This is what I was thinking after I read your responses. Though, what does "spherical equivalent" mean? My concern is my right eye which is -0.75 + 0.25 x40 now, the flight pyhsical consists of "transposing" these numbers and standards must meet in both plus-cylinder and minus-cylinder formats, after that calculation, my right eye seems to be -1.00 -0.25 x130(?) according to military technical bulletin. This leaves me only half a diopter room before I would be disqualified for flight duty. If my eye moves another half diopter and transposed numbers equal a -1.50, can I be still eligible for PRK? Maybe that is what spherical equivalent?
I will write more later... Thanks a lot... By the way, Bill, my right eye was 20/30-1 and pin hole 20/20-2 and left was with moisturizing drops 20/20. This exam was at 1430 hours so my eyes were not so fresh as some call it. I wonder if the acuity results would be different if it was done 0900 in the morning.
otisbrown@pa.net - 31 Aug 2005 04:43 GMT Dear John,
I wonder if you could check something for me.
I have been told that you must read 4 out of 5 characters to pass the line.
Dr Judy says that reading 1/2 the characters pass the line.
(I like Judy's standard.)
Question: Is there any standard?
Best,
Otis
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 31 Aug 2005 04:57 GMT *ATB - DISTANT VISUAL ACUITY TESTING (DD Form 2808, Block 61. 'DISTANT VISION') [As of: 1 May 2002]*
- IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT 20/20 DISTANT VISUAL ACUITY STANDARD FOR FDMEs! Per AR 40-501, paragraph 4-12, a (1), "...no more than 1 error per 5 presentations of 20/20 letters, in any combination, on either the Armed Forces Vision Tester (AFVT) or any projected Snellen chart set for 20 feet." - Issue: AFVT line has 10 letters but is split into two sets of five letters positioned next to each other on the same line. You may still test the entire line, if desired, but the patient is still only required to get *4 out of 5* letters that are on a 20/20 line to be considered a 'pass' for an FDME. Therefore, entries of 20/20 or 20/20-1 are both passing entries. Most projected Snellen charts have 6 letters (some have 4, 5, 7, or 8 letters) per line. The regulation allows for presentation of 5 letters "in any combination" so you may meet the requirement. If in que stion, refer to the Eye Clinic for verification.
Mike Tyner - 31 Aug 2005 05:25 GMT > Question: Is there any standard? The standard they taught in physiological optics at UAB was "smallest line with half or more right." But in the clinic, or in a psychophysical experiment, the difference between one line and another seldom alters anybody's career.
The AF and the FAA etc spell out qualification standards as fairly as they can, and it isn't always what a purist would use.
-MT
Mike Tyner - 31 Aug 2005 05:07 GMT >He said "Sorry, but we have decided not to do refractions this low. Our >cut off is a -1.50 spherical equivalent. Very logical.
Spherical equivalent is the mean dioptric power, the average of the two major meridians.
For -0.75+0.25x040, the SE is -0.62. When you convert, honor the signs.
Your myopia would have to double before it threatens your qualification. And the later myopia begins, the milder it tends to be.
-MT
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 31 Aug 2005 08:32 GMT >Very logical. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >-MT Mike, Can you help me find where I am standing according to Army regs? Let me quote the standard procedures for the Army exam...
UPDATED ENTRY STANDARDS FOR CLASS 1/1A FLIGHT DUTY MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS. (as of 28 March 2002):
Hyperopia greater than +3.00 diopters of sphere (in any meridian by transposition in either eye) Myopia greater than -1.50 diopters of sphere (in any meridian by transposition in either eye) Astigmatism greater than +/- 1.00 diopter of cylinder in either eye Must meet above standards in both plus-cylinder and minus-cylinder formats, so transpose to ensure patient meets standards (spherical equivalent method does not apply).
For example, the cycloplegic refraction of: -1.00 - 0.75 x 180 (in minus-cylinder format) might appear qualified at first glance. However, after transposition into plus-cylinder format of: -1.75 + 0.75 x 090 (in plus-cylinder format) it is apparent that this refraction is disqualifying because the sphere amount exceeds -1.50.
Transposition Review: 1. Algebraically sum the sphere and cylinder powers 2. Change the sign of the cylinder power 3. Change the axis by 90 degrees.
Important Note for Eye Care Providers A cycloplegic refraction is NOT necessarily equal to the refraction you would give for spectacle lenses. If a patient is "on the border" of being qualified or disqualified, it is best for the Army and for the patient to use the "least amount of prescription needed to see within standards" approach. For example, if a patient has a cycloplegic refraction that is +/- 0.25 diopters outside of standard but can still read to the 20/20-1 standard with the refraction amount that is WITHIN standards, enter the lesser amount. Do NOT, however, try to "push" the 20/20-1 on borderline cases. These patients receive an entirely new cycloplegic exam once they come to Fort Rucker to enter flight school. If they are outside of the standard, they will be required to request an exception-to-policy which will likely be disapproved. Use your professional judgement but do not allow someone to come to flight school knowing he/she has a good chance of failing their detailed cycloplegic exam upon arrival.
So what is mine after this transposition? As far as I understood, they are not doing the spherical eq. for flight duty exams.
Thanks...
Mike Tyner - 31 Aug 2005 14:34 GMT > Mike, Can you help me find where I am standing > according to Army regs? Let me quote the standard > procedures for the Army exam...
> So what is mine after this transposition? As far as > I understood, they are not doing the spherical eq. > for flight duty exams. If your script was written -075+025x030, that transposes to -050-025x120.
Either way, you're in.
-MT
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 01 Sep 2005 08:11 GMT >If your script was written -075+025x030, that transposes to -050-025x120. > >Either way, you're in. > >-MT Thank you, this is good to know...
What is the K's 43.75 @087 44.5@095 also on my paperwork?
Mike Tyner - 01 Sep 2005 08:36 GMT Keratometry is a measurement of the shape of your cornea. It's used mostly for fitting rigid contacts, but it's included as a formality sometimes.
-MT
Mike Tyner wrote: If your script was written -075+025x030, that transposes to -050-025x120.
Either way, you're in.
-MT Thank you, this is good to know...
What is the K's 43.75 @087 44.5@095 also on my paperwork?
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 01 Sep 2005 08:41 GMT >Keratometry is a measurement of the shape of your cornea. It's used mostly >for fitting rigid contacts, but it's included as a formality sometimes. Oh I see, do these numbers seem like anything out of the ordinary or pretty normal? I couldn't find anything on these in the Army regs, so they must not be of any criteria. Thanks again Mike.
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