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43 percent of natural eyes have diplopia -- Fincham

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otisbrown@pa.net - 23 Aug 2005 01:26 GMT
Dear John,

Subject:  43 percent of normal eyes have diplopia.

1.  Monocular Diplopia Caused by Ocular Aberrations and Hyperopic
    Defocus.  Russell L.  Woods, Arthur Bradly, David A.
    Atchison.    Revised March 1996 Peragmon

    "...  The second type of monoculary diplopia, however, seems
to be much more common, and perhaps present in most eyes.  Studies
of otherwise normal eyes indicate incidences of monoculary
diplopia of between 43 percent (Fincham, 1963)..."
alexeremeev@gmail.com - 23 Aug 2005 09:02 GMT
It is interesting. You could send me the full text of clause?
otisbrown@pa.net - 23 Aug 2005 13:48 GMT
Dear Alex,

The text is fuzzy, so I can't copy it.

I will type up some of it and post it
here when I get some time.

The implication is that eye with
VERY SHARP vision have some
"ghosting" or diplopia.

I will state the author's location
at the time of publication, and
a correspondence author.
With most of these scientific
publications the author
is pleased to discuss his paper
with you.

Best,

Otis
Mike Tyner - 23 Aug 2005 14:31 GMT
> With most of these scientific
> publications the author
> is pleased to discuss his paper
> with you.

Most of these scientific publications appear in a specific book or journal,
published on a specific date.

That way we can cite the article so others can find it and read the entire
text.

-MT
otisbrown@pa.net - 25 Aug 2005 04:37 GMT
Dear Alex,

Here is the second paper by R. Woods on ghosting in the natural eye.

2.  Consequences of Monocular Diplopia for Contrast Sensitivity
   Function.  Pergamon

Authors:

Russell L.  Woods,

To whom all correspondence must be addressed:
Department of Vision Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University
Cowcaddens Road
Glasgow G4 OBA,
Scotland

Arthur Bradly,
School of Optometry
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405

David A.  Atchison.
Centre for Eye Research,
Scool of Optometry
Queensland University of Technology
Queensland, Australia
________________________________

Reference papers:

Fincham, E.  F., (1963) Monocular Diplopia.  British Journal of
     Ophthalmology, 47, 705-712

Coffeen, P.  and Guyton, D.  L.  (1988) Monocular diplopia
     accompanying ordinary refractive errors.  American
     Journal of Ophthalmology, 105, 451-459
otisbrown@pa.net - 26 Aug 2005 02:12 GMT
    Dear Myopia prevention friends.

    I have received the following on "ghosting" for your
interest.  Since this is a private email, I will change the name
of the sender.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Dear Mr.  Brown:

    I have been following with great interest your latest
postings on "Ghosting" or Diplopia.  My main reason to contact you
at this point is my concern that John may be commiting an
error for something he can overcome by continuing
with his vision therapy.

    As it happens, in the process of restoring my vision, and
struggling with a stubborn astigmatism, I have noticed "Ghosting"
in both eyes.  In my worst eye (Right) the ghosting has actually
changed.  Originally the ghost image was at 11 o'clock position.
As my vision improved, the ghost is now at 3 o'clock position, and
disappearing.  The left eye also has some ghosting that still
shows up occasionally.    I know it is related to the astigmatism in
my eyes, because the astigmatic mirror tells me so.  I have my own
ideas as to why this is occurring, but the point is that I am
getting rid of the ghosting.

    While there has been some discussion about John's complaint
and his ghosting or diplopia, I am not aware he has had a thorough
diagnosis.  Unless I have missed those posts.  Maybe the
information at the following link:

http://www.optometry.co.uk/files/2c8b0cc4c7b2636385085b3991c9f03e_finlay20001006.pdf

    maybe helpful, if John is not aware of the whole diplopia
issue.

    Regards.

    Jo
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 27 Aug 2005 13:42 GMT
>     Dear Myopia prevention friends.
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
>  

Kindly ask the sender post here. I have no diagnosis of diplopia, but
you admit that plus lenses introduce diplopia, which is a defect, to
one's vision, this is not acceptable. What am I supposed to see in tis
study paper?
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 28 Aug 2005 12:38 GMT
>     Dear Myopia prevention friends.
>
>     I have received the following on "ghosting" for your
>interest.  Since this is a private email, I will change the name
>of the sender.

Otis, I have received your email. Kindly ask this "Jo" person to email
me if he needs to point out certain facts about my ghosting in the right
eye. Better yet he should come and visit SMV. Unless it is public
discussion where ODs can see and verify, I have no interest in these
dialogues.
Neil Brooks - 26 Aug 2005 03:07 GMT
>Dear Alex,
>
>Here is the second paper by R. Woods on ghosting in the natural eye.

Is ghosting less prevalent in the artificial eye?
Yasar, Mehmet C PFC A Co 602d ASB - 23 Aug 2005 14:02 GMT
>Dear John,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>  

What about the remaining 57 percent? Yes I used to be in that 57%.
Again, you better hope I don't have diplopia, or maybe start a research
how I can get rid of diplopia.

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