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waz - 17 Jul 2005 04:15 GMT
Any advice on regulatory agencies in Canada/Quebec for optometrists?
I'm thinking along the lines of a complaint.

Thanks for any info.

Waz
Mark A - 17 Jul 2005 05:15 GMT
> Any advice on regulatory agencies in Canada/Quebec for optometrists?
> I'm thinking along the lines of a complaint.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Waz

I believe that they are licensed by province in Canada:
http://www.opto.ca/en/public/links.asp#link2

Is your Google broken?
waz - 20 Jul 2005 03:42 GMT
>> Any advice on regulatory agencies in Canada/Quebec for optometrists?
>> I'm thinking along the lines of a complaint.
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>
> Is your Google broken?

Thanks for the info.

Google works all too well when I type in "optometrists Quebec" as the search
parameters. perhaps the french spelling would have given me different (but
still very many) results.

Waz
Mark A - 20 Jul 2005 05:04 GMT
> Thanks for the info.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Waz

I used "canada optometrist regulatory" for my Google search.
Dr Judy - 17 Jul 2005 05:27 GMT
> Any advice on regulatory agencies in Canada/Quebec for optometrists?
> I'm thinking along the lines of a complaint.
>
> Thanks for any info.

Optometrists are regulated by the province.  What province are you in?  I'm
assuming it is Quebec:

Ordre des Optométristes du Québec (OOQ)
1265, rue Berri, bureau 700
Montréal, (Québec), H2L 4X4
(514) 499-0425 (Bus. tel.)
(514) 499-1051 (FAX)
E-mail: mooq@ooq.org

If you phone, the complaints officer will be able to tell you how to make a
complaint and may be able to offer advice on how to solve the dispute
without resorting to a formal complaint.

Make sure the person you intend to complain about is actually an
optometrist, not an optician.

Dr Judy

> Waz
waz - 20 Jul 2005 03:46 GMT
>> Any advice on regulatory agencies in Canada/Quebec for optometrists?
>> I'm thinking along the lines of a complaint.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>> Waz

Thank you for the info.
I live in Quebec, the info you provided seems to be what I might need to
know.
Google supplied too many hits for my ill chosen search parameters.
If you read my follow-ups to this thread you will understand the nature of
my situation.

Many thanks.

Waz.
otisbrown@pa.net - 18 Jul 2005 21:40 GMT
Dear Waz,
Why not state the nature of your complain, with out identifying the OD
concerned
with the issue.

I am certain you will get a clarification
for the issue that concerns you.

Best,

Otis
waz - 20 Jul 2005 03:35 GMT
> Dear Waz,
> Why not state the nature of your complain, with out identifying the OD
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Otis

The issue concerns paying for an eye exam that resulted in an incorrect
prescription. Lenses were purchased and had to be refused as unusable (they
are covered by guaranty). A second eye exam payed for at the site where I
purchased the lenses resulted in a slightly different prescription, but one
that was more in agreement with my past prescriptions.
I think I should pay for ONE exam, not two.
otisbrown@pa.net - 20 Jul 2005 13:57 GMT
Dear Waz,

I agree with you.

If you buy a "bad product" you can return it for a refund.

If you receive a "bad prescription", you should receive a refund -- in
my opinion.

There is no telling what a "Board of Optometry" might decide
in this matter, however.

Best,

Otis
Dr. Leukoma - 20 Jul 2005 15:42 GMT
> Dear Waz,
>
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>
> Otis

And if you practice optometry or medicine without a license, you should
be prosecuted.

DrG
otisbrown@pa.net - 20 Jul 2005 19:01 GMT
And if you over-prescribe a minus lens by -2 diopters
or provide an "error" prescription -- then you should
tell the person "...you will get used to it.".

And if they devevelop stair-case myopia (i.e., -1/2 diopter
per year -- bifocal studies,) just tell them its
their "bad heredity".)

And when they examine the explicit experimental data
the proves (on a scientific level) that the refractive
state of the natural eye "follows" the applied minus lens,
just tell them that ALL PRIMATE DATA MUST BE EXCLUDED
from the discussion.

But the true "second-opinion" remains PREVENTION with
the plus.

See;

www.chinamyopia.org

Best,

Otis
Mike Tyner - 20 Jul 2005 19:56 GMT
> just tell them that ALL PRIMATE DATA MUST BE EXCLUDED
> from the discussion.
>
> But the true "second-opinion" remains PREVENTION with
> the plus.

Just tell them that ALL HUMAN DATA MUST BE EXCLUDED.

Ostrich.

-MT
Mike Tyner - 20 Jul 2005 23:17 GMT
> And if they devevelop stair-case myopia (i.e., -1/2 diopter
> per year -- bifocal studies,) just tell them its
> their "bad heredity".)

DON'T READ THIS!

Goss, D., Am J Optom Physiol Opt., 61(2):85-93
Thirty-six subjects (18 males and 18 females) ranging in ages from 7.38 to
15.82 years received an overcorrection of 0.75 D over the power required to
correct their myopia exactly.... Rates for the experimental and control
groups were not significantly different.

-MT
Dr. Leukoma - 21 Jul 2005 01:33 GMT
And if you continue to practice medicine without a license and to spew
lies and misinformation, then you must be held accountable.

DrG
waz - 21 Jul 2005 03:40 GMT
oh no, I've started a war.
I am really sorry.
This fighting is NOT good.

Waz

> And if you over-prescribe a minus lens by -2 diopters
> or provide an "error" prescription -- then you should
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>
> Otis
Dr Judy - 21 Jul 2005 04:47 GMT
> oh no, I've started a war.
> I am really sorry.
> This fighting is NOT good.
>
> Waz

You have not started a war, they were fighting for years before you got
here.  Just ignore Otis and any replies to anything he posts.

Dr Judy

>> And if you over-prescribe a minus lens by -2 diopters
>> or provide an "error" prescription -- then you should
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>
>> Otis
William Stacy - 21 Jul 2005 05:04 GMT
> You have not started a war, they were fighting for years before you got
> here.  Just ignore Otis and any replies to anything he posts.

I could not agree more...

w.stacy, o.d.
doctor_my_eye@msn.com - 20 Jul 2005 19:04 GMT
If you take this "logic" to its conclusion, then...
...every heart patient who dies after surgery should get a refund.
...every patient who goes to the doctor for a head cold should get a
refund when the symptoms persist.
...and, of course, every LASIK patient who fails to get perfect
emmetropic vision should be refunded as well!

...Yeah, right.
Dr Judy - 21 Jul 2005 04:45 GMT
>> Dear Waz,
>> Why not state the nature of your complain, with out identifying the OD
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> that was more in agreement with my past prescriptions.
> I think I should pay for ONE exam, not two.

You can take this to complaints, but you should be aware that the regulatory
bodies cannot order refunds.  For refunds you need small claims court.

http://www.collegeoptom.on.ca/complaintsprocess.htm

Dr Judy
 
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