Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
However, I am not aware of other transparent media of which a thickness
of just a few millimeters appears blue with such high intensity.
1) what kind of inhomogenety of the iris explains the strong Rayleigh
scattering? Molecules, particles, ...?
2) are there common materials with equally strong or stronger Rayleigh
scattering?
LarryDoc - 03 Jul 2005 17:54 GMT
> Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
> However, I am not aware of other transparent media of which a thickness
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> 2) are there common materials with equally strong or stronger Rayleigh
> scattering?
Blue irides are blue because, additionally, the muscle and connective
fibers are blue-gray and vary in density. It is not solely about light
scatter and reflection.
--LB, O.D.
B. Janse - 03 Jul 2005 20:51 GMT
>> Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
>> However, I am not aware of other transparent media of which a
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>
> --LB, O.D.
Do you mean those muscles and connective fibers themselves are intrinsically
are blue-gray? That means they contain a blue-gray pigment. What is the name
of that pigment?
Mike Tyner - 03 Jul 2005 22:43 GMT
> Do you mean those muscles and connective fibers themselves are
> intrinsically are blue-gray? That means they contain a blue-gray pigment.
> What is the name of that pigment?
There is no blue or gray pigment.
The muscles aren't visible.
The "connective fibers" are cartilaginous. Fresh cartilage is bluish-white.
-MT
B. Janse - 04 Jul 2005 00:06 GMT
>> Do you mean those muscles and connective fibers themselves are
>> intrinsically are blue-gray? That means they contain a blue-gray
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> bluish-white.
> -MT
I would tend to think that if there is no blue pigment, the blue shade of a
fibril is not intrinsic. Could the blue shade be due to wavelength-selective
scattering in a more superficial layer, similar to the apparent blue color
of veins below the skin?
Mike Tyner - 04 Jul 2005 01:53 GMT
> I would tend to think that if there is no blue pigment, the blue shade of
> a fibril is not intrinsic. Could the blue shade be due to
> wavelength-selective scattering in a more superficial layer
What "superficial layer?" The iris has an epithelium, but it's "clinically
transparent" in blue eyes.
http://www.milesresearch.com/iris/iris
Iris fibroblasts are bluish, like fresh knuckle.
-MT
Mike Tyner - 04 Jul 2005 01:55 GMT
> http://www.milesresearch.com/iris/iris
Sorry, the correct link is http://www.milesresearch.com/iris/
-MT
B. Janse - 04 Jul 2005 21:57 GMT
>> I would tend to think that if there is no blue pigment, the blue
>> shade of a fibril is not intrinsic. Could the blue shade be due to
>> wavelength-selective scattering in a more superficial layer
>
> What "superficial layer?" The iris has an epithelium, but it's
> "clinically transparent" in blue eyes.
I meant a mathematical layer, not an anatomical structure. Just like milk: a
thin layer appears bluish, but I would not say that milk itself is bluish.
> http://www.milesresearch.com/iris/iris
>
> Iris fibroblasts are bluish, like fresh knuckle.
>
> -MT
Ok. Then the question is, do bluish fibroblasts contribute more than
anything else in the iris to the color of bright blue eyes?
Mike Tyner - 04 Jul 2005 22:30 GMT
> Ok. Then the question is, do bluish fibroblasts contribute more than
> anything else in the iris to the color of bright blue eyes?
I think so. I don't see what else there could be.
-MT
Rod Speed - 03 Jul 2005 21:56 GMT
> Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
Nope.
> However, I am not aware of other transparent media of which a
> thickness of just a few millimeters appears blue with such high intensity.
Have a look at blue glass some time.
> 1) what kind of inhomogenety of the iris explains the
> strong Rayleigh scattering? Molecules, particles, ...?
There is no Rayleigh scattering.
> 2) are there common materials with equally
> strong or stronger Rayleigh scattering?
There is no Rayleigh scattering with blue eyes.
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Arnold - 03 Jul 2005 23:23 GMT
> > Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
>
> Nope.
Then, would you be so kind to tell what really causes the color of blue
eyes, in your opinon?
In addition, could you explain why Rayleigh scattering does not play a
role?
Arnold - 04 Jul 2005 00:11 GMT
> Blue eyes (irises) are blue due to Rayleigh scattering of light.
> However, I am not aware of other transparent media of which a thickness
> of just a few millimeters appears blue with such high intensity.
> 1) what kind of inhomogenety of the iris explains the strong Rayleigh
> scattering? Molecules, particles, ...?
I just found an article that says the blue iris is due to light
scattered by stroma cells. It is not completely satisfactory: if those
cells are larger than the wavelength of light, it would not really be
Rayleigh scattering.
http://www.wonderquest.com/eye-color.htm