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Are all opticians thieves or just most of them?

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Tim Sniioker - 01 Jul 2005 20:37 GMT
  They want to charge between 5, and get this $10, for a pair of nosepads, not even
installed.

 I know they cost at most 50 cents.

 Scumbags.

 This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.
LarryDoc - 01 Jul 2005 22:20 GMT
>    They want to charge between 5, and get this $10, for a pair of nosepads,
>    not even
> installed.
>
>   I know they cost at most 50 cents.
<snip>

First of all, your subject line is distasteful and mean spirited. Why
not write: "is $5-10 a fair price for new nosepads?"

The answer is yes. And likely the optician would have taken the few
minutes to install them for you.

You do not know the real costs.  In order to have the nosepad style that
fits your frame, the optician likely had to buy a selection of numerous
pads, some of which he/she will never use. There were shipping costs,
tax and inventory costs involved. Not to mention he/she had to take the
time to examine your frame and check to see if the parts were in stock.
That time incurs some cost as well, considering he/she could be dealing
with someone who was going to be buying something of greater of value
and it costs money to keep the store open for your convenience. So it
doesn't matter if it cost 50 cents or 2 dollars or whatever. The
question is whether or not you are willing to have someone save you a
couple of hundred dollars by charging you ten.

Hey, in any profession/business there will be honest and ethical people
and those who are not. Just like there will be customers who are fair
and deserving of service and others who we may or may not choose to deal
with because they are not.

--LB, O.D.
(not an optician, but I play one sometimes)
Tim Sniioker - 02 Jul 2005 05:25 GMT
>>    They want to charge between 5, and get this $10, for a pair of nosepads,
>>    not even
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>First of all, your subject line is distasteful and mean spirited. Why
>not write: "is $5-10 a fair price for new nosepads?"

 Because I wanted the subject line to make a point. And it did. I do not require an
answer to the riddle of fair price in this case.

>The answer is yes. And likely the optician would have taken the few
>minutes to install them for you.

   I was clear that I was not expecting them to waste thier valuable time on the menial
task.  

>You do not know the real costs.  In order to have the nosepad style that
>fits your frame, the optician likely had to buy a selection of numerous
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>question is whether or not you are willing to have someone save you a
>couple of hundred dollars by charging you ten.

   I see, so my alternative was to throw my glasses away. And I dont spend hundreds of
dollars for glasses , even in this day and age.  I understand that they might have a
suck..., uhh, customer ready to pay $300 for a $15 frame, so again, time is money.

  I was willing to pay $2 or $3 for the damn things. Not $5, and certainly not $10 from
the Russian bandit.  I've been through this game before,  and did find someone willing as
a courtesy, to GIVE me the pads.  

 This time around, I bought a lifetime supply of 30 pair, , cost me $25 total , and I
don't have to deal with the greedy  'ticians for another 20 years.

 Let's face it, they charge as much as they can because they think they have you over a
barrel, and most customers are saps.

>Hey, in any profession/business there will be honest and ethical people
>and those who are not. Just like there will be customers who are fair
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>--LB, O.D.
>(not an optician, but I play one sometimes)
Mark A - 02 Jul 2005 08:04 GMT
I believe that LensCrafters may replace them for free, along with tightening
and replacing any screws on your frame. However, I don't think they will
special order any parts for free. Doesn't matter where you purchased your
glasses.

They have pretty good customer service, but their lenses suck.
Alteaon - 03 Jul 2005 02:12 GMT
I am not a thief. I will gladly change your nosepads for free if you
purchased your glasses through my company. Otherwise, I charge 3.99,
but I will also adjust your frame, and check all the screws/parts.  We
used to not charge for nosepads, but we had to be competitive. Everyone
was bringing in all the glasses known to man to get free nosepads.
LarryDoc - 03 Jul 2005 17:50 GMT
> I am not a thief. I will gladly change your nosepads for free if you
> purchased your glasses through my company. Otherwise, I charge 3.99,
> but I will also adjust your frame, and check all the screws/parts.  We
> used to not charge for nosepads, but we had to be competitive. Everyone
> was bringing in all the glasses known to man to get free nosepads.

Is not charging $3.99 really thievery, or at least a deception, in that
you didn't say "four bucks" because you are trying to get the customer
to think that $3.99 is a better deal?   ;-)
Alteaon - 05 Jul 2005 02:21 GMT
3.99 is 3.99. If a person is convinced that it's a "better deal", than
that is thier perception.
Isn't a person who wants things for nothing more of a thief than the
person who charges for it?
Dan Abel - 01 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
>   This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.

Terrible, isn't it?  Were you one of the original Native Americans who
sold Manhattan in 1626 for US$24?  Just hasn't been the same since.

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Wooly - 02 Jul 2005 01:53 GMT
I thought they sold it to the Dutch for a few strings of beads and a
couple of fake kroner?  </tongue-in-cheek>

>>   This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.
>
>Terrible, isn't it?  Were you one of the original Native Americans who
>sold Manhattan in 1626 for US$24?  Just hasn't been the same since.

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Tim Sniioker - 02 Jul 2005 05:31 GMT
>>   This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.
>
>Terrible, isn't it?  Were you one of the original Native Americans who
>sold Manhattan in 1626 for US$24?  Just hasn't been the same since.

 You know you're right, the problem with optician overpricing has nothing to do with
origin, it comes with the license, and is equal opportunity.

 
CHINESEMALE(age16) - 02 Jul 2005 05:44 GMT
Horrible, a profession is, where one must literally destroy the welfare
of others to prosper.  It's a conspiracy damnit!  ADHD kids don't wear
glasses!  Us myopes should do exactly what they do, or at least make
our children behave like they do.
Jan - 03 Jul 2005 09:21 GMT
>  This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.

So you have Indian roots?

IMHO most off the North Americans have there roots in either Europe or
Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam

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Mark A - 03 Jul 2005 16:36 GMT
> So you have Indian roots?
>
> IMHO most off the North Americans have there roots in either Europe or
> Africa.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam
Native Americans (what you call Indians) came from Asia, most likely from
through modern day Russia to Alaska.
Dr. Leukoma - 03 Jul 2005 13:46 GMT
When I first read your post, it struck me that you are a cheapskate.
However, on a second reading, I agree that the price should have
included the service of replacement.  We tend to do those types of
repairs at no charge in order to generate good will.  As a result of
that policy, we are hardly "overwhelmed" with requests.

DrG
William Stacy - 06 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
It is traditional to include free nosepads during the life of
spectacles, but only by the original supplier/fitter.  Other than that,
you are really paying $0.50 for the pads and 5 or 10 bucks for the
services: listening to you say what you want, inspecting the glasses to
determine what pads will fit (there are many kinds, not
interchangeable), pulling the pads from stock, handing them to you (I
must say I've never had someone just ask for pads, unistalled, and I've
been in business over 30 years), or installing them correctly (my
habit). Having written all that and thinking about it, I'm raising my
fee from 5 to 10 bucks tomorrow.

w.stacy, o.d.

>    They want to charge between 5, and get this $10, for a pair of nosepads, not even
> installed.
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>
>   This is in New York, where foreigners have taken over.
ycdbsoya - 07 Jul 2005 23:08 GMT
You're in NYC and THIS is what you complain about? Oy! Save your money
and just wear in a raw spot on your nose, you cheap bastard.

And buying them in bulk...big mistake...the rubber will rot before you
use them all.
 
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