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Where to get almost-flat polycarbonate bifocals?

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Reader@noaddress.invalid - 26 Jun 2005 02:22 GMT
I'm looking for polycarbonate bifocals (+1.50 / +2.50) that have an
almost flat front surface. A slight curvature would be OK, but the
usual curvature is too large. My local shops say they don't have such
a thing. Is there a place to get something like this?

Thanks -
Bob
William Stacy - 26 Jun 2005 05:59 GMT
> I'm looking for polycarbonate bifocals (+1.50 / +2.50) that have an
> almost flat front surface. A slight curvature would be OK, but the
> usual curvature is too large. My local shops say they don't have such
> a thing. Is there a place to get something like this?

Why would you want that?  They will look like mirrors.  Is it for a
theatrical use?  I mean they used to make 'em like that (in the 19th
century).

w.stacy, o.d.
Dr Judy - 26 Jun 2005 17:33 GMT
> I'm looking for polycarbonate bifocals (+1.50 / +2.50) that have an
> almost flat front surface. A slight curvature would be OK, but the
> usual curvature is too large. My local shops say they don't have such
> a thing. Is there a place to get something like this?

Why do you want a flat front?  It would mean a convex back and would cause
increased distortions and may bump into your eyelashes.

If you are still insistent, you could ask for a +3 base curve and have the
lab mount them backwards, ie back surface (which will be about flat) to the
front and front surface to the back.  Likely will be unwearable.

To understand why, here is a brief optics primer:

The total power of a lens is the sum of the back and front surfaces.  The
"curved outwards"  convex surface is +.   Distortions are minimized with
convex front, concave back surfaces, trying for about +4 to +6 front.  To
get the about +2.00 that you need you would need about +6.00 front and -4
back.  The lens, in cross section would look like
   ( (

You are asking for plano front.   That means about +2 back.  The lens, in
cross section would be
    |)

If you did plano back, then the front would need to be +2.  Lens would be
(|

I think the latter is the best you can hope for.

Dr Judy

> Thanks -
> Bob
Reader@noaddress.invalid - 26 Jun 2005 19:33 GMT
>The total power of a lens is the sum of the back and front surfaces.  The
>"curved outwards"  convex surface is +.   Distortions are minimized with
>convex front, concave back surfaces, trying for about +4 to +6 front.  

You bring up a good point about the possible distortion if it is
flatter. Would it be better to use aspheric lenses to minimize this?
Is the aspheric part only on the front, or must both sides be
aspheric? Do these kinds of lenses require a special lab?

>To
>get the about +2.00 that you need you would need about +6.00 front and -4
>back.  The lens, in cross section would look like
>    ( (

Yes, this is what they are saying they have to do, using a +6 front.
There is a small astigmatism component, +.50, but they said that is
not the problem. I asked about using a +2 or +3 front, but they say it
can't be made that way. I still don't understand why not.

>You are asking for plano front.  

Actually, it was 'almost-flat'. Originally I was thinking about a +1
front and a +1 back.

>If you did plano back, then the front would need to be +2.  Lens would be
>(|
>
>I think the latter is the best you can hope for.

Thay say it can't be done, that's why my note here.

Thanks for the informative reply -
Bob
Robert Martellaro - 28 Jun 2005 21:56 GMT
>I'm looking for polycarbonate bifocals (+1.50 / +2.50) that have an
>almost flat front surface. A slight curvature would be OK, but the
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>Thanks -
>Bob

Bob,

An aspheric lens would have a front curve of about +4.00. A +2.00 curve
(aspheric) is doable, but the vision away from the center of the lens (including
the bifocal) will not be as clear compared to a lens that uses "best form" base
curves.

Hope this helps

Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
robopt@execpc.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field."
 - Niels Bohr
Reader@noaddress.invalid - 22 Jul 2005 01:35 GMT
>>I'm looking for polycarbonate bifocals (+1.50 / +2.50) that have an
>>almost flat front surface. A slight curvature would be OK, but the
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>
>Hope this helps

Yes it does. Sorry for the long delay in responding.

Thanks -
Bob
 
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