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Neil Brooks - 10 Jun 2005 15:44 GMT
Dear Reader,

Before you consider paying attention to anything that Otis Brown
(otisbrown@pa.net) writes, I invite you to review all of his  previous
posts.  

Not only is there no scientific data on humans to support his fantasy,
but there IS plenty that proves him wrong.

Otis gets the basis of his warped, disproved ideas from concepts
written a century ago and one study done on CHICKENS!

Any of you folks chickens ?

Otis Brown is more than simply bizarre.  He's wrong. See the weekly
(Mondays)  "welcome to sci.med.vision" for information on  how to
block his ramblings.

If you can find a shred of evidence or scientifically accepted proof
of the efficacy of using plus lens therapy to prevent  the progression
of myopia in humans then, by all means, follow his advice, but do so
only under the care of a licensed  optometrist or ophthalmologist.

"Scientifically accepted proof" results from experiments conducted
within the "scientific method" explained here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

Otis's posts tend to fall into the category of anecdotal (or made up):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

Otis's posts can be reviewed at:

http://snipurl.com/e77s
http://snipurl.com/fe3d
Robert Kopp - 10 Jun 2005 20:38 GMT
> If you can find a shred of evidence or scientifically accepted proof
> of the efficacy of using plus lens therapy to prevent  the progression
> of myopia in humans then, by all means, follow his advice, but do so
> only under the care of a licensed  optometrist or ophthalmologist.

He does not appear to claim that his procedures work except for mild
degrees of myopia, not industrial strength like mine. For myopes to wear
plus lenses would probably do no harm, except in situations like driving
where good vision is essential.

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Dan Abel - 10 Jun 2005 20:56 GMT
> He does not appear to claim that his procedures work except for mild
> degrees of myopia, not industrial strength like mine. For myopes to wear
> plus lenses would probably do no harm, except in situations like driving
> where good vision is essential.

And in fairness, I believe that he only advocates using a plus lens for
myopes when they are doing close work.  That doesn't mean it works any
better, but the bogus argument about driving a car and such evaporates.  A
mild myope is going to see just fine with a mild plus lens when doing
close work, as long as they still have some accommodation.

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Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
dabel@sonic.net

LarryDoc - 11 Jun 2005 01:33 GMT
> > He does not appear to claim that his procedures work except for mild
> > degrees of myopia, not industrial strength like mine. For myopes to wear
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> mild myope is going to see just fine with a mild plus lens when doing
> close work, as long as they still have some accommodation.

And your point is....what?  Fostering a further discusion Otis' junk
science?  Why? Do you not have anything else better to do than to debate
his moronic, thoroughly disproven theories? Why can't you people just
leave it alone already!  Be part of the solution, not the problem,

LB, OD
Neil Brooks - 10 Jun 2005 22:15 GMT
>> If you can find a shred of evidence or scientifically accepted proof
>> of the efficacy of using plus lens therapy to prevent  the progression
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>plus lenses would probably do no harm, except in situations like driving
>where good vision is essential.

You and I read Otis's postings and website very, very differently.  He
has been claiming--for quite some time, and in hundreds of posts--that
a) the minus lens causes myopia to accelerate, and that b) the use of
the plus lens will halt the acceleration of myopia.

He offers no proof of either.

If you'd be interested in referencing a few of his posts, where he
draws the distinction that you've inferred, I'd be grateful for the
opportunity to read them.  

Either way, I would seek proof of his claims.
otisbrown@pa.net - 11 Jun 2005 03:59 GMT
Actually, it would
be simpler if the person
just read my site:

www.myopiafree.com

and study the individuals
like Dr. Stirling Colgate who
"cleared" their vision back
to 20/20 BEFORE they
wore a minus lens.

Best,

Otis
RM - 11 Jun 2005 23:46 GMT

I agree entirely.
Instead of posting your drivel in this newsgroup, why don't you make a
single short 2-3 line posting directing anyone interested in myopia
prevention to come to your newsgroup.  That would improve the environment
around here significantly (you old fool)!

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> Actually, it would
> be simpler if the person
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> Otis
 
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