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Clearing pseudo-myopia of -1.5 diopters (20/60) to 20/20

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otisbrown@pa.net - 19 Apr 2005 21:20 GMT
Dear Prevention minded friends,

Subject:  Passing 20/20 -- no problem!  Jon

Please rememver, science and medicine is NEVER a "finished
business".  New cocenpts and scientific facts must be
introduced.  The "traditional" method of the minus lens
was put in place 400 years ago -- and has not
changed one iota since then.

The following approach is supported by SOME ODs, and
opposed by others -- of that truth their is no doubt.

Specifically, the following approach is supported
by Steve Leung, and you can review his commentary
at:

www.chinamyopia.org

Since these issues have NEVER been resolved -- is it
a person's right to be duly informed, and pursue the
PREVENTIVE method of the plus lens.
People should not get "hot" about these discussions,
but should understand this as a "learning" process.

This is the basis of the following report of
vision clearing -- as an HONEST second-opinion.

The "majority opinion" insists that this "can't happen",
and that the concept that the natural eye -- as dynamic -- must
be destroyed. (Jan-OD)

As always, enjoy these pleasant conversations
about the proven dynamic behavior of the natural eye.

Best,

Otis
Engineer

______________

    Jon contacted me about eleven months ago and asked if I could
help him.  He said his vision was 20/60 and -1.5 diopter
(prescription).  I asked about his examination.  He said he passed
all medical tests, but the OD said he could not read the 20/50,
line and that it took a -1.5 diopter lens to "clear" to 20/20.

    I asked him to read his eye-chart.  He did, and reported
about 20/60.  I explained to him that since he was 13, there were
no "legal" (driver-license) requirements on him, and he could "get
along" without any minus.  If there were a requirment that he real
the "board" then he should use his -1.5 dipoter lens for that
purpose -- but remove them when not necessary.    I asked him to NOT
wear the minus at any other time -- as a first step.  He took me
seriously.

    I asked him to read my FREE book on www.i-see.org.  He did.
I asked him to down-load an eye chart from that site.

    I explained that "results" could not be guarnteed -- and
would take a considerable amount of time.

    Once he "accepted" that he PERSONALLY would have to be in
COMPLETE control.  He chose to take the next step.

    The proceedure was to obtain a "plus" lens as strong a
possible, consistent with his "reading" distance.

    This means "pushing print" to the point of "just blur" and
reading at that point -- checking every 10 minutes or so to make
certain you have not pulled the work in closer.  The point of this
work is to keep the book at "optical infinity".

    Furhter, as an option, I asked him to obtain a "weak" plus of
about 1.5 diopters -- to be worn as soon as you get up -- and
around the house most of the time.

    Obviously this is not "child's play", and will turn most
people "off" before they even start.  It was a matter of his
personal resolve -- to see if he could accomplish the same result
that Dr.  Stirling Colgate did.  Jon accepted this self-dicipline.

    The purpose of this work is to "optically" move you eyes "out
of the house".  This is equivalent to moving "outdoors" and living
there -- all the time.

    Vision clearing is indeed a slow process, clearing at about
+3/4 diopters per year -- if you work this effort consistently.

    His first success was passing the 20/40 line.  That meant
that he could PASS the DMV-Snellen, and avoid being sent to an OD
-- for an over-prescribed minus lens.

    He continued with the plus but "hung" at 20/25 for about 6
weeks.    Most people would have quit -- he kept on goint with his
effort.

    Finally, 20/20 began to "come in".  This process is a matter
of two-steps forward, and one step back.  A real test of your
fortitude -- in the face of adversity.

    Today he is a 20/20.  When he enters college, he knows the
"down" rate (for the un-protected eye) is about -1.3 dipters in
four years.

    He is well-aware of the consequences of this behavior of the
natural eye.  Knowledge of these basis scientific facts simply
means that he must monitors his eye chart, and when he starts
reading 20/25, he simply restarts the "preventive" process --
which he knows he has successfuly used.

    Once you have done this successfully, there will be no doubt
that:

1.  It works.

2.  And is necessary.

3.  And the consequences to YOU if you refuse to do it -- when you
   enter a four year college.

    ____________

To:  Jon

Subject:  Reporting current 20/20 status.

Dear Jon

Jon > My vison is slowly improving each day.  To give you an idea
     of how well i can see things now, when I'm in class and the
     teacher puts soemthing up on the overhead to copy or read
     and she turns off the lights, then about a handfull of
     peolpe will say, "miss, can you make it bigger?" However I
     can read it fairly well.    In otherwords, my vision is about
     the same, or a little better than the few kids in the class
     who dont wear glasses, but still have truoble reading tiny
     print.

Otis> While comparison of other "normal" 20/20 people is important
     for your own confidence, ultimately, you must measure
     objectively, only with your own eye chart.  I also wish
     there was a low-cost trial lens kit (with a 3/4 astigmatism
     lens) so you could do ALL measurements as a excellent
     scientist and engineer.

Jon > Using the plus lens to improve me vison is one of the
     greatest achivements of my life.    I have never done
     something this big before, and I'm so happy i chose the
     second opinion.

Otis> Given all the "talking" I have done with a great mass of
     people -- you are right.    As before, I know of only a
     handfull of people who have been willing to carry this work
     forward to complete 20/20.  That puts you in a "class" with
     Stirling Colgate, and suggests you will have his scientific
     or engineering future.

Jon > In my left eye I must have a fair amount of astigmatism,
     because i really notice it now, For example, If i draw a
     right angle 90 degrees on a pice of paper, which has to
     lines, and put it on a bit of a slant sideways, one line is
     extremely sharp, while the other line is very blurry.

Otis> Entirely possible.  The U.S.  Airforce allows for 1 diopter
     of astigmatism with no glasses -- no problem -- as long as
     the pilot passes 20/20.  THIS IS COMPLETELY NORMAL.  While
     one eye might have this degree of astigmatism, the two eyes
     "over-lay" the two images, and the mind "takes out" the
     effect of any astigmatism.  The natural eye is not "perfect"
     as many will insist.  It does have these "imperfections"
     that should be understood -- but with not excessive concern.
     More to learn here.

Jon > In order to see the blurry line clearly, I must bring it
     much closer to my face.  When i do this I have my plus
     lenses on, I also must allow my eyes to go "lazy" in order
     to look at the image through just one eye, my left eye.
     However, I dont notice this with my right eye because my
     right eye has no astigmatism, do you know why only one eye
     has the astigmatism?

Otis> As before, we should "design" a low-cost trial lens kit
     (frame) with a -3/4 diopter cylinder lens, which could be
     rotated from zero to 180 degrees.  The angle that gives you
     "clearest" vision on the 20/20 chart becomes your
     measurement of "objective" astigmatism.  As an
     engineer-scientist you should make this measurement.

Jon > Passing 20/20 no problem!

Otis> Our orginal goal was for you to:

1.  Legally get rid of your -1.5 diopter lens and 20/60 vision.

2.  To do that -- use the plus and pass the legal visual
   requirement of 20/40 -- which you did.

3.  Continue to work to 20/20 -- and learn a great deal more from
   this process.

Otis> This complete process is applied science as far as I am
     concerned -- and you have proven yourself very capable in
     this process of vision clearing to 20/20.

Best,

Otis

Jon
William Stacy - 19 Apr 2005 21:46 GMT
>The "majority opinion" insists that this "can't happen",
>and that the concept that the natural eye -- as dynamic -- must
>be destroyed. (Jan-OD)
>
>  

Actually, the majority of optometrists probably have tried to "push the
plus" on myopes at one time or another in their career, I know I have.  
Most have found that it gives poor and unpredictable (if any) results.  
We don't have to destroy any concept;  the thing is dying a natural
death on its own.

w.stacy, o.d.
otisbrown@pa.net - 20 Apr 2005 05:37 GMT
Dear William,
As I have suggested a number of times -- the success depends on
the "understanding" of the person concerned with the issues -- Jon,
in this instance.

The major point is that "Jon" figured out what HE WANTED in his life,
and understood that you could never "prescribe" the type of motivation
"vision clearing" really takes.

It is simply not part of anything you are doing -- or will be doing
in the future -- unless with your own grandchildren.

For this reason, I suggest that the ODs who are interested in helping
children with the "preventive" method be provided with a DISCUSSION
of this possibility.  Obviously you are not going to do this -- which
is why I describe your approach at the "majority opinion".

However, Steve Leung judges that the studies by Francis Young
are convincing -- and that he is going to have his own children
wearing the plus -- when their refractive state is close to zero.

This is the reason I describe this "preventive" method as the
second opinion -- since, to be effective, it must be used BEFORE
a minus lens is applied.

It is also true that most people -- even offered the preventive method
-- might
choose the minus lens, with full knowledge of the consequences.  That
would
be a fair an honest discussion.

It is also clear that this preventive method is low-cost.  The
eye-charts
are free, and the slection of plus lenses are available
over-the-counter.

And, most important -- it is essential that the person who wishes to
"work" this process actually read his own eye chart.  Assuming
he has the motivation (a major problem) and will "stick" with it, then
eventually he can see his vision clear -- very slowly.

I would agree that this is the reason why you have not had "success"
with
it.

Most people expect ONLY very-sharp vision from you -- and would get
upset if you attempted to do anyting else.  That does "limit" you,
and defines the difference between true-prevention, and the
work that you are doing.

Enjoy,

Otis
Dr. Leukoma - 20 Apr 2005 10:46 GMT
Actually, Otis, what you are preaching is not so much a method, but a
LIFESTYLE based on FAITH, as there is little of scant scientific
evidence that it works in homosapien.  Furthermore, this LIFESTYLE is
based on total disbelief in and avoidance of minus lenses, which you
deem to be "poison."  I am certain that some people will be willing to
believe you, just as they believe that fluoridation is a communist
plot.  A more moderate view, and one that would likely be more
productive, would be to advocate relaxation methods and to advocate for
reducing or minimizing the time spent by young children on nearpoint
activities that are non-essential to academics.  Calling minus lenses
"poison," and labeling the scientific community as simply the "majority
opinion," is rather farcical and has justifiably earned you the enmity
of many people.

DrG
Jan - 19 Apr 2005 21:54 GMT
Major snip in a bunch of an ever repeating blablabla..............

> The "majority opinion" insists that this "can't happen",
> and that the concept that the natural eye -- as dynamic -- must
> be destroyed. (Jan-OD)
>
> As always, enjoy these pleasant conversations
> about the proven dynamic behavior of the natural eye.

As always, Otis is telling big lies, what I realy stated is shown below.
I suppose your eyes Otis, are far more dynamic than obviously your brains
are.
And Otis, I never liked your lies and certainly I'm not enjoying your
laymans ''one direction'' conversations, I rather should call them
unpleasant  ''monologue's''
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Free to  Marcus Porcius Cato: ''Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"

In conclusion, I think that the "Otis therapy" should be destroyed

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Dr. Leukoma - 20 Apr 2005 02:45 GMT
Just look at this piece of work.  Are you writing a master's thesis or
what?  Spend some more quality time with the grandkids.  Abandon this
kind of nonsense.

DrG
otisbrown@pa.net - 20 Apr 2005 16:43 GMT
Dear DrG,

It is precisely because of your lack of convern for PREVENTION
for our grandchildren -- that I AM CONCERNED with
your attitude.

All parents should have some knowledge of this second opinion
before you put their children in a minus lens.

But you are not going to do that are you?

They do have certain basic rights, the right to
an informed, competent second opinion as described
by Steve Leung,

www.chinamyopia.org

Nothing is lost if they turn down prevention with the
plus -- except for their long-term distant vision -- permanently.

This, and the "blasts" against preveniton convinced "Jon" of
your incredible intellectual blindness towards true-prevention -- and
forced him to take personal reponsibility himself -- so
he would not become a victim of this "syistem".

Best,

Otis
Mike Tyner - 20 Apr 2005 17:47 GMT
> All parents should have some knowledge of this second opinion
> before you put their children in a minus lens.

We're concerned too. All you have to do is point us to a reference that
shows neutralizing minus causes any change in humans.

> But you are not going to do that are you?

Every published comparison in humans shows minus has negligible effects.

> They do have certain basic rights, the right to
> an informed, competent second opinion as described
> by Steve Leung,

So Dr. Leung has published a comparison showing the "poison" effect of
minus?

> Nothing is lost if they turn down prevention with the
> plus -- except for their long-term distant vision -- permanently.

Just as parents of cancer patients should be informed about the beneficial
effects of peach pits.

> This, and the "blasts" against preveniton convinced "Jon" of
> your incredible intellectual blindness towards true-prevention -- and
> forced him to take personal reponsibility himself -- so
> he would not become a victim of this "syistem".

Bluster and rhetoric, contradicted by published results.

-MT
Dr. Leukoma - 20 Apr 2005 19:32 GMT
I see charlatans peddling snake oil in the guise of PREVENTION and
self-righteous "concern over our grandchildren."  Now, that is
something to be concerned about.  Little children walking around in
over-the-counter plus lenses trying to "clear" their vision with little
chance for improvement is a most cynical kind of exploitation.  Better
stick to pilots.  At least they are adults and are responsible for
their own decisions.

On the other hand, when I talk about prevention, I talk about
treatments that are at least 50% effective.  Now, that is something to
be excited about.

DrG
Dan Abel - 20 Apr 2005 23:13 GMT
> Dear DrG,

> All parents should have some knowledge of this second opinion
> before you put their children in a minus lens.
>
> But you are not going to do that are you?

Of course he isn't going to give them advice that he thinks is wrong.
He's not going to give the third opinion either, about staring at the
sun.  He's not going to give the fourth opinion either, about curing
myopia with vitamins.

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Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
dabel@sonic.net

William Stacy - 20 Apr 2005 23:52 GMT
or the 5th, put them in pinhole glasses...

or the 6th, sell them a Bates reprint...

or the 7th, have them squish their eyes straight by palming...

etc. etc.  boy has this n.g. deteriorated since the 90's...

w.stacy, o.d.

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Neil Brooks - 20 Apr 2005 23:59 GMT
>boy has this n.g. deteriorated since the 90's...

IIRC, back in the day, it was just Alex Eulenberg.

Apparently, cloning has met with some success . . . though I think
Alex was a far more credible contributor, agree with him or not.
Mike Tyner - 21 Apr 2005 00:04 GMT
> Apparently, cloning has met with some success . . . though
> I think Alex was a far more credible contributor, agree with
> him or not.

Anybody remember Ray Chambers?

-MT
William Stacy - 21 Apr 2005 00:26 GMT
I remember both ray and alex.  Both a bit nutty, but both contributed a
lot of critical thinking.
Ahh the good old days...

anyone care to comment on my newest bit of blatant commercialism???:

WARNING:  Clicking on this link will take to a rank commercial plug.

http://www.folsomeye.com

(just got this running today; comments appreciated)

w.stacy, o.d.

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