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57-year old presbiopic/hypermetropic lady reads diamond type at 10 cm

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g.gatti@agora.it - 05 Apr 2005 15:10 GMT
It took 15 minutes of relaxation but suddenly this lady after wearing
for ten years plus lenses for the correction of hypermetropia and
presbyopia (in the last five years the lenses were progressive from +3
dioptres) now could read in a well lighted place outdoors the line
titled 4) of the Bates book, "seven truths of notmal sight", page 195,
at 10 cm from her face.

I will post her progress in the next few weeks.

http://TheCentralFixation.
Neil Brooks - 05 Apr 2005 16:14 GMT
>It took 15 minutes of relaxation but suddenly this lady after wearing
>for ten years plus lenses for the correction of hypermetropia and
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>
>I will post her progress in the next few weeks.

Don't bother, Rishi.  There's not a living soul walking this earth who
believes you anyway....
g.gatti@agora.it - 05 Apr 2005 20:09 GMT
> Don't bother, Rishi.  There's not a living soul walking this earth who
> believes you anyway....

These are true things.

I am on this market since three years, and I will go on forever.

If this was not possible, the thing should have been dismissed long
ago.

But don't worry, your business will not suffer.

These are things for intelligent people.
Neil Brooks - 05 Apr 2005 21:34 GMT
>> Don't bother, Rishi.  There's not a living soul walking this earth
>who
>> believes you anyway....
>
>These are true things.

Thank you, but the validity of my statement was really self-evident.

>I am on this market since three years, and I will go on forever.

I don't really know about that, but it certainly *feels* that way.

>If this was not possible, the thing should have been dismissed long
>ago.

...and has been...
g.gatti@agora.it - 05 Apr 2005 22:01 GMT
> >If this was not possible, the thing should have been dismissed long
> >ago.
>
> ...and has been...

You have dismissed your mind, I'm sorry for you.

People are improving and eventually get a permanent cure.

Now it is no more a fact of one or two cases, these are dozens now.

Some are able to trick a dirty machine like the refractometer.

What to do?

I dont' ask you to believe.

Please, f.ck off.
Neil Brooks - 05 Apr 2005 22:08 GMT
>People are improving and eventually get a permanent cure.
>
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>
>What to do?

Well . . . you could perform proper, controlled, peer-reviewed studies
and have them *published.*  This *could* give you *some* measure of
much-needed credibility.

>I dont' ask you to believe.
>
>Please, f.ck off.

From the country of Dante Alighieri?  Disgraceful.  Simply
disgraceful.
g.gatti@agora.it - 06 Apr 2005 08:01 GMT
> Well . . . you could perform proper, controlled, peer-reviewed studies
> and have them *published.*  This *could* give you *some* measure of
> much-needed credibility.

I'm not interested, please get lost, don't be unnecessarily idiotic.
andrewedwardjudd@hotmail.com - 05 Apr 2005 22:53 GMT
she probably never was hypermetropic and many 57 years olds can still
accommodate.

Why is it so difficult to believe that this is possible?
g.gatti@agora.it - 06 Apr 2005 08:02 GMT
> she probably never was hypermetropic and many 57 years olds can still
> accommodate.
>
> Why is it so difficult to believe that this is possible?

Well, she could not see anything for 15 minutes.
retinula@hotmail.com - 06 Apr 2005 15:59 GMT
> many 57 years olds can still
> accommodate.

wrong!  MAYBE they can accommodate about 0.50 diopters, but that is
probably doubtful.

in full sunlight her pupils were constricted. and in bright light there
are sufficient central rays of light entering the eye to make small
near print discernable.  accommodations had nothing to do with it.
retinula@hotmail.com - 06 Apr 2005 16:00 GMT
oh-- and of course it could just be the typical BS that Rishi likes to
post to get attention to his web site where he makes money off of
unsuspecting gullible people.
ycdbsoya - 05 Apr 2005 17:30 GMT
Well, that's what happens when you have "Not Male" eyes.
Wooly - 06 Apr 2005 12:28 GMT
>at 10 cm from her face.

Gee, a whole FOUR INCHES.  I'm blind as a proverbial bat and even I
can read small print at 4" without my spectacles...
Dr. Leukoma - 06 Apr 2005 12:33 GMT
What a contemptible fraud you are.  Have the Italian authorities caught
you yet?

Of course this hypermetropic, presbyopic elderly woman can read in
bright sunlight.  Did you think to check the size of her pupils?  They
are undoubtedly pinholes.

DrG
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Apr 2005 07:27 GMT
> What a contemptible fraud you are.  Have the Italian authorities caught
> you yet?
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>
> DrG

I would like to know why you idiot-doctors prescribed to her +3
progressive eyeglasses...

Perhaps you are all criminal who sell unnecessary glasses for the
gullible?

Why then she could not see anything for 15 minutes?
Dr. Leukoma - 07 Apr 2005 13:15 GMT
> > What a contemptible fraud you are.  Have the Italian authorities
> caught
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>
> Why then she could not see anything for 15 minutes?

I don't know Italian law, but I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't
broken a few.  Telling people to look at the sun will result in some
people being injured.

DrG
 
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