I went through childhood (probabaly 11 yrs old on) without having my
nearsightedness corrected.
I finally got contacts at about age 18. Think the prescription was
around -1.25 but quickly required
stronger prescriptions. I'm -3.00 now at age 40.
I was wondering if going through childhood uncorrected caused any
long-lasting negative effects compared
to getting corrected early??
Also.. I've noticed that getting fully corrected with contacts in my
left eye to the level the doc says really
screws with that eye. Its sharper vision but not always. And my near
vision really hates full correction in
that eye. So I've backed off a 1/2 diop in that eye. Road signs are
blurrier for the most part.
Wonder if not getting corrected early contributed to this effect.
Joe Stella - 28 Mar 2005 05:29 GMT
>I went through childhood (probabaly 11 yrs old on) without having my
>nearsightedness corrected.
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>long-lasting negative effects compared
>to getting corrected early??
Oh-oh. I think I sense a storm brewing... ;-)
>Also.. I've noticed that getting fully corrected with contacts in my
>left eye to the level the doc says really
>screws with that eye. Its sharper vision but not always.
What do you mean by "screws with" and "not always"? Is it something
other than the "near vision" you describe below?
>And my near vision really hates full correction in
>that eye.
That's most likely "presbyopia", i.e. far-sightedness that comes
with age. Welcome to the over-40 crowd.
>So I've backed off a 1/2 diop in that eye. Road signs are
>blurrier for the most part.
The way to treat presbyopia is with bifocals or progressive lenses.
You might be able to get away with a weaker lens for now but
as you get older the condition gets worse, and this will no longer
work.
>Wonder if not getting corrected early contributed to this effect.
Here it comes, I can already hear the wind blowing... :)
Andrew Judd - 28 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
>The way to treat presbyopia is with bifocals or progressive lenses.
I think i would prefer the words 'cope with' rather than 'treat'
Presbyopia seems to come to us all (I am 49) but so far i have not got to
the stage of much younger friends. It seems once you begin the plus lens
'treatment' you quickly lose the remaining elasticity of the lens and
become utterly dependant upon the lenses.
Last year i met a world renowned italian genetic scientist who must have
been 60 or so. We talked about his vision since he was reading without
glasses. He did not require reading glasses and had demonstrably good
vision in both eyes and had never worn or needed glasses.
Why so? Has the phenonmena ever been studied? Seems that this mans
ability is 'scietifically impossible'. What was striking about him was
that although he was some 11 years or so older than me, he was flexibly
minded, young and joyful of heart and not obviously prone to the kind of
narrow minded rigid thinking that is common for some older people.
Another friend of mine of similar flexible and boyish nature did not
require glasses for any purpose until he was in his late 50's
Andrew
Mike Tyner - 28 Mar 2005 23:49 GMT
> the stage of much younger friends. It seems once you begin the plus lens
> 'treatment' you quickly lose the remaining elasticity of the lens and
> become utterly dependant upon the lenses.
It does seem that way, until you actually measure accommodation.
> Last year i met a world renowned italian genetic scientist who must have
> been 60 or so. We talked about his vision since he was reading without
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> Why so? Has the phenonmena ever been studied? Seems that this mans
> ability is 'scietifically impossible'.
The "phenomenon" has been studied extensively.
I'm 51 and I can read without glasses.
Your friend's distance prescription could be like mine: pl-125x090.
My mother never wore glasses her entire life. Her Rx was pl-250x090.
-MT
RM - 29 Mar 2005 01:43 GMT
> It seems once you begin the plus lens
> 'treatment' you quickly lose the remaining elasticity of the lens and
> become utterly dependant upon the lenses.
That wretched plus. We should make it illegal.
> Last year i met a world renowned italian genetic scientist who must have
> been 60 or so. We talked about his vision since he was reading without
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> Another friend of mine of similar flexible and boyish nature did not
> require glasses for any purpose until he was in his late 50's
I am also 51 and probably don't have a boyish nature. I can see good at
distance and near without glasses. My prescription is OD= -0.50, OS= -2.00.
Do you begin to see some ways that this can happen now?
RM - 28 Mar 2005 10:03 GMT
>I went through childhood (probabaly 11 yrs old on) without having my
>nearsightedness corrected
How do you know you were actually nearsighted then?
> I finally got contacts at about age 18. Think the prescription was
> around -1.25 but quickly required
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> long-lasting negative effects compared
> to getting corrected early??
No-- there is no "damage" done by not correcting your eyes earlier if they
needed it.
> Also.. I've noticed that getting fully corrected with contacts in my left
> eye to the level the doc says really
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> blurrier for the most part.
> Wonder if not getting corrected early contributed to this effect.
No. More likely there is some slight astigmatism, or some other refractive
problem, that remains even with your contacts on. Possibly you are
overminused in that eye which is why your near vision is affected by the
contacts. I would discuss the effect you are noticing in your left eye with
your eyedoc.
g.gatti@agora.it - 28 Mar 2005 12:47 GMT
> No. More likely there is some slight astigmatism, or some other refractive
> problem, that remains even with your contacts on. Possibly you are
> overminused in that eye which is why your near vision is affected by the
> contacts. I would discuss the effect you are noticing in your left eye with
> your eyedoc.
He says his vision changes continuously.
Haven't yoou read what he says?
Why you dismiss important parts of the messages? The ones that do not
fit with your flawed theory...
g.gatti@agora.it - 28 Mar 2005 12:45 GMT
Every case is individual and cannot be subjected to counter-proof.
What is clear, is again and again that the conventional treatment is
bogus, and does not solve the problem.
And still you trust these people!
In my opinion, your being no-prescribed till 18 years was a great
fortune for you.
But there is no proof of the contrary.
> I went through childhood (probabaly 11 yrs old on) without having my
> nearsightedness corrected.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> left eye to the level the doc says really
> screws with that eye. Its sharper vision but not always. And my near
> vision really hates full correction in
> that eye. So I've backed off a 1/2 diop in that eye. Road signs are
> blurrier for the most part.
> Wonder if not getting corrected early contributed to this effect.