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Medical Forum / General / Vision / March 2005Persistent Floaters
I've been annoyed and plagued by a persistent 'floater' near the centre of my vision in my left eye for a couple of weeks now. I think I only really notice it when using my computer. It's not always there but most of the time. Nothing unusual has happened lately that I explain it by. I don't wear contact lenses. I'm assuming it's the same floater since I only ever see one at a time - the exact shape isn't clear. Am I correct in assuming this is caused by something inside my eye rather than on the surface? Is there a name for this? What might have caused it? Is there anything I can do to remedy it? Thanks, Scrim > I've been annoyed and plagued by a persistent 'floater' near the centre of > my vision in my left eye for a couple of weeks now. I think I only really [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Am I correct in assuming this is caused by something inside my eye rather > than on the surface? No. > Is there a name for this? Yes, but it's not important. > What might have caused it? Mental strain. > Is there anything I can do to remedy it? Yes, learn to look at the sun regularly on a daily basis and it will go away by itself. http://TheCentralFixation.com Any constructive feedback appreciated: I've been annoyed and plagued by a persistent 'floater' near the centre of my vision in my left eye for a couple of weeks now. I think I only really notice it when using my computer. It's not always there but most of the time. Nothing unusual has happened lately that I can explain it by. I don't wear contact lenses. I'm assuming it's the same floater since I only ever see one at a time - the exact shape isn't clear. Am I correct in assuming this is caused by something inside my eye rather than on the surface? Is there a name for this? What might have caused it? Is there anything I can do to remedy it? Thanks, Scrim > Any constructive feedback appreciated: There isn't much, as you know if you've googled "vitreous floaters". > Am I correct in assuming this is caused by something inside my eye rather > than on the surface? Absolutely. Like a wisp of cotton suspended in clear jello. The light from your pupil forms a shadow on your retina, and the shadow looks like a spot in your visual field. > Is there a name for this? The wisps are "floaters." I don't recall hearing them called anything else. > What might have caused it? Most often they are from two causes: vitreous detachment and vitreous syneresis. Both processes are "normal" in the sense that most people experience them to some degree. > Is there anything I can do to remedy it? Very little. As a previous post told you, there are surgeons who will attempt to remove (some of) them with laser but anything more invasive is too likely to cause a reaction in the retina, leaving vision worse than with just the floater. If it's disabling (both eyes, constant, unsatisfactory vision) then the risk may be justified. -MT > > Any constructive feedback appreciated: > > There isn't much, as you know if you've googled "vitreous floaters". Another of the impossibilities that ophthalmologists confess. Other impossibilities are: they do not know how to cure myopia, hypermetropia, astigmatism, strabismus, presbyopia, etcetera they do not know how to cure glaucoma, retinitis, macular degeneration, blindness, etcetera they do not know how to prevent imperfect sight they do not know how to cure astenopia etcetera > > Am I correct in assuming this is caused by something inside my eye rather > > than on the surface? > > Absolutely. Like a wisp of cotton suspended in clear jello. This is impossible: if you project the shadow of a fly on the wall, you won't see any shadow if the fly is too distant from the wall. Same thing happens for the floaters. How do you explain tha the floaters simply vanish from time to time? It is clear that they have a mental origin. > The light from your pupil forms a shadow on your retina, and the shadow > looks like a spot in your visual field. Again this is not true for many reasons, you know why. > > Is there a name for this? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Most often they are from two causes: vitreous detachment and vitreous > syneresis. Both processes are "normal" in the sense that most people > experience them to some degree. Then why people that starts treatment without glasses and according to rest methods do not see them again? > > Is there anything I can do to remedy it? > > Very little. As a previous post told you, there are surgeons who will > attempt to remove (some of) them with laser but anything more invasive is > too likely to cause a reaction in the retina, leaving vision worse than with > just the floater. If it's disabling (both eyes, constant, unsatisfactory > vision) then the risk may be justified. No please, stop that bullshit. These symptoms are easily curable: just learn some principles of perfect sight, accustom again your eyes to sunlight, discard any kind of glasses, and the floaters will go away quickly. http://TheCentralFixation.com >> Absolutely. Like a wisp of cotton suspended in clear jello. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > explain tha the floaters simply vanish from time to time? It is > clear that they have a mental origin. What's clear is you've never actually looked. If I see a floater in your eye, I'm hallucinating? -MT > What's clear is you've never actually looked. > > If I see a floater in your eye, I'm hallucinating? > > -MT Yes, you call it a floater but in fact it is not. If you talk with a client who does not see them any more, what do you think, that, he is allucinating? Thanks for the info. I had my regular eye check a few days ago, but the optician didn't have any useful information. She did ask if the 'floater' moved or not and I said it did. I imagine she was checking it wasnt retina damage. Since over the years I've occasionally noticed floaters floating through the centre of my fields of vision, but never had one stick around like this, I'm hoping it will eventually float away or be removed by some natural mechanism within the eye. I'm still confused by the physics of how these things move around though. If the eye is filled with jelly they should be fixed in place. If it isn't in fact a jelly but a liquid, why is this one hanging around? Scrim >> Any constructive feedback appreciated: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > -MT I've just found this video, which answers some of my questions, although it covers a more serious condition : http://www.3d-eye.com/3d-eye/vitreous_detach.html Thanks again, Scrim > Thanks for the info. > I had my regular eye check a few days ago, but the optician didn't have [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> -MT > I'm still confused by the physics of how these things move around though. > If the eye is filled with jelly they should be fixed in place. If it isn't > in fact a jelly but a liquid, why is this one hanging around? When you're young, it's firmer and more consistent through-and-through. With age, it softens and liquifies in places, and the fibrous component coalesces into strands. This is the process I called "syneresis." -MT > With age, it softens and liquifies in places, and the fibrous component > coalesces into strands. This is the process I called "syneresis." > > -MT You continue to call names, invent things. The facts are very simple: if you practice the methods of the normal eye, the floaters are not seen anymore. I can see them sometimes and then they disappear. I have clients from all the ages who can witness this process also. The main cure is with sun-gazing. Once you can look at the sky without the fear to see floaters, you are cured, or your cure has started. http://TheCentralFixation.com Thanks for the message! As annoying as floaters are, you've demonstrated that there's things that are much, much more annoying - like yourself. Could you make yourself disappear? >> With age, it softens and liquifies in places, and the fibrous >component [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >http://TheCentralFixation.com nellie4...@mindspring.com wrote: > Thanks for the message! As annoying as floaters are, you've > demonstrated that there's things that are much, much more annoying - > like yourself. Could you make yourself disappear? Why should I? I'm not a floater, which does not exist either. Perhaps you are an idiot? >nellie4...@mindspring.com wrote: >> Thanks for the message! As annoying as floaters are, you've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Perhaps you are an idiot? Yes, perhaps you are idiot! And thanks again for reminding me how annoying you are! > I've been annoyed and plagued by a persistent 'floater' near the centre of > my vision in my left eye for a couple of weeks now. I think I only really [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Scrim Basically, a vitreous floater is actually inside of your eye, in the vitreous. The floater itself is benign but you might want to consider seeing an eye provider for a dilated retinal exam to ensure no retinal problems (ie retinal tear). Most floaters are just caused by the aging process of the vitreous. There is really no effective treatment for floaters - there are a couple of providers in the U.S. that attempt to laser them but it is not widely available and there are no meds. frank |
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