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Tinted glasses?

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mo - 18 Feb 2005 01:44 GMT
Is it possible to buy normal glasses which are tinted on the outside but
provide a clear image for the wearer?

what are these types of glasses called?

cheers
Mark A - 18 Feb 2005 02:05 GMT
> Is it possible to buy normal glasses which are tinted on the outside but
> provide a clear image for the wearer?
>
> what are these types of glasses called?
>
> cheers

You can buy Transitions lenses (in various materials and indexes) that get
darker when outside in bright sunlight, but they are never perfectly clear
indoors (you will loose about 10% transmittance indoors).Whether they are
"clear enough" for you depends on your tolerance. The amount of darkening
also depends on the temperature and the color (grey, brown, etc). Obviously,
these lenses can also be affected somewhat by indoor lighting.

Transitions is a brand name technology that has licensed to many lens
manufactures. Another brand name is called PhotoGray for glass lenses.

Here are some representative numbers on Luminous Transmittance of
Photochromic Products from Sola.

The first percentage is Unactivated Transmittance (indoors), and second
number is Activated Transmittance (outdoors):

Hard Resin (1.50 index) Transitions Gray 89% 15% 73 Degrees F
Hard Resin (1.50 index) Transitions Brown 89% 17% 73 Degrees F
Polycarbonate Transitions Gray 87% 22% 73 Degrees F
Spectralite Velocity Transitions 87% 17% 75 Degrees F
PhotoGray Extra 85% 22% 77 Degrees F 2.0mm thick Chem tempered
Dom - 18 Feb 2005 03:03 GMT
>>Is it possible to buy normal glasses which are tinted on the outside but
>>provide a clear image for the wearer?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You can buy Transitions lenses <snip>

I thought the OP was asking about something different, i.e. a lens that
looks untinted looking out from the wearer's POV, but looks tinted to
others looking at the wearer. The short answer is no you can't, but the
closest you would get would be a mirror coating.

Dom
Mark A - 18 Feb 2005 03:19 GMT
> I thought the OP was asking about something different, i.e. a lens that
> looks untinted looking out from the wearer's POV, but looks tinted to
> others looking at the wearer. The short answer is no you can't, but the
> closest you would get would be a mirror coating.
>
> Dom

I will have to admit that I didn't know for sure what the OP was talking
about. The terms were not exactly precise.
Sibirer - 21 Feb 2005 09:28 GMT
>> Is it possible to buy normal glasses which are tinted on the outside but
>> provide a clear image for the wearer?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Obviously,
> these lenses can also be affected somewhat by indoor lighting.

Losing around 10% transmittance is normal for perfectly clear regular CR-39
lenses!!! AR coatings drop that to the 2-3% range.

Carl

> Transitions is a brand name technology that has licensed to many lens
> manufactures. Another brand name is called PhotoGray for glass lenses.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Spectralite Velocity Transitions 87% 17% 75 Degrees F
> PhotoGray Extra 85% 22% 77 Degrees F 2.0mm thick Chem tempered
Mark A - 21 Feb 2005 09:46 GMT
"Sibirer" <seezoiter(phonetically)@mtaonline.net> wrote in message

> Losing around 10% transmittance is normal for perfectly clear regular CR-39
> lenses!!! AR coatings drop that to the 2-3% range.
>
> Carl

I presume that the numbers published by Sola on transmittance that I quoted
(for regular lenses or Transition lenses) do not include loss from
reflections that can be reduced by AR coating.

I don't believe that the transmittance loss of non-AR coated lens is static.
It depends quite a lot on the nature of the ambient light.
 
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