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Advice on corneal dystrophy?

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Nan Eklund - 12 Jan 2005 22:54 GMT
I've got a fairly rare condition which is getting worse as I get older (age 76
now).
My opthalmologist also calls it "map-dot-fingerprint" and corneal dystrophy..
The outer layer of the epithelium on the cornea flakes off, only in my case it
acts like ice burgs breaking up.  Often makes my vision blurry; sometimes
hurts.  Vision varies a lot.
He says I can go conservative (Refresh Liquigel and gels at night) and live
with it, or radical and get laser PRK treatment which will scrape off the outer
layer of epithelium - excepting that there's no guarantee the new layers won't
do the same thing all over again. Having a stubborn Swede heritage,  I'd bet on
it's reaccurance.
and something I read in Medscape makes me think it's heredity.  
OK.  Any suggestions?  Advice?  Anyone else out there with a wierd condition?
Nan, diabetic tax preparer who needs to see.
Dr. Leukoma - 12 Jan 2005 23:20 GMT
I have had excellent results with soft contact lenses such as the Focus
Night & Day for patients with EBMD.  The contact lens seems to smooth
over the epithelial irregularities.

DrG
ycdbsoya - 12 Jan 2005 23:21 GMT
Another therapy for moisture production is the antibiotic Restasis. I
have a epithelial dystrophy caused by LASIK. MDF is also callled
epithelial membrane dystrpohy (EBMD), where the epis don't lay down
well on the underlying cell bed, I believ the Bowman's layer, causing
sloughing of the epi cells, blurry visison, pain, also called RCE, or
recurrent corneal erosion, in severe cases. PRK dusting or manual
scraping is a common and proven technique for reducing or eliminating.
It may come back, but a combiination of the PRK, antibiotics and
steroid drops following the procedure should give you a healthy epi.
Good luck, take your time...
LarryDoc - 13 Jan 2005 03:07 GMT
To correct some of your mis-information:

> Another therapy for moisture production is the antibiotic Restasis.

Restasis is not an antibiotic. Cyclosporin is an immuniosupressive agent
and acts as an anti-inflamatory drug in the eye.  I can see where you
might make that mistake, from the "sporin" ending.

For some people, simply taking a few grams of omega-3/flaxseed oil
orally a day provides relief from a similar mechanism of action.

Meanwhile, as Dr. G stated, the use of a silicone hydrogel as a bandage
lens is an excellent therapy. I have a number of patients who do that,
including myself!  (Although I now use Menicon multifocal GP lens, at
least until I get another RCE ;-)

It's all about management---drops for lubrication, puncta occlusion for
chronic dry eye, Restasis/omega-3s, contact lens for protection, PRK for
a possibly more lasting treatment---and never, ever rubbing the eyes.

-LB, OD
ycdbsoya - 13 Jan 2005 16:11 GMT
> To correct some of your mis-information:
>
> > Another therapy for moisture production is the antibiotic Restasis.
>
> Restasis is not an antibiotic. Cyclosporin is an immuniosupressive agent
> and acts as an anti-inflamatory drug in the eye.  I can see where you

> might make that mistake, from the "sporin" ending.
>
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> lens is an excellent therapy. I have a number of patients who do that,
> including myself!  (Although I now use Menicon multifocal GP lens, at

> least until I get another RCE ;-)
>
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>
> -LB, OD

I have heard of some patients taking Salagen (Pilo?) to increase tear
production, but that the other glands start to flood as well. This was
primarily for Sjogren's, but does it have application for post-RS dry
eye?

Also, what does rubbing the eyes do that's bad?
LarryDoc - 13 Jan 2005 16:46 GMT

> Also, what does rubbing the eyes do that's bad?

Weak epithelium attachment + dry eye + rubbing = removal of epithelium
causing ocular surface defect = pain.  For some people with EBMD,
removing dry eye from the equation doesn't change the outcome.

-LB, O.D.
Dr. Leukoma - 12 Jan 2005 23:56 GMT
Well, it is indeed heredity, hence the term "dystrophy."

As the previous poster said, PRK or PTK or epithelial scrape are all
treatments for EBMD.  However, I have had great success with contact
lenses.  They not only smooth over the epithelium, but improve the
vision in the process.

You decide.  I particularly like the Focus N&D because it is approved
for 30 days of overnight wear and also because its thickness tends to
produce good visual acuity.

DrG
ycdbsoya - 13 Jan 2005 00:29 GMT
> Well, it is indeed heredity, hence the term "dystrophy."
>
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>
> DrG

My bad, Dr. G. Isn't this called a "bandage contact" to help the
recalcitrant epi cells to calm down and bind more effectively to the
BL? You're right, that would be the best first approach.
Dr. Leukoma - 13 Jan 2005 01:19 GMT
> > Well, it is indeed heredity, hence the term "dystrophy."
> >
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> recalcitrant epi cells to calm down and bind more effectively to the
> BL? You're right, that would be the best first approach.

No, not your bad.  As a post-RS patient, you have come to associate
EBMD with recurrent cornea erosion, and that is completely
understandable.

Many cases of EBMD I have seen do not have RCE as a concurrent
pathology, but simply an uneven epithelium and uneven tear film, with
substandard visual acuity.  The power of the contact lens is to provide
a smooth refractive surface.

DrG
 
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