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Medical Forum / General / Vision / January 2005MEDICATION WHICH PARALYSES THE EYE's LENS MUSCLE HAS DAMAGED MY EYE?
I recently suferred from mild "Iritis" in one eye caused by "Trauma". I was prescribed "Prednisolone Acetate" (a Steroid) and "Mydrilate" (Cyclopentolate Hydrochloride) to "Dilate" the pupil. The "Mydrilate" is used in conjunction with the Steroid to prevent the "Inflamed Iris" from "Sticking" to the Lens. The Steroid cleared up the redness and soreness in a day or so. However I had to stop taking the "Mydrilate" immediately because of the "Blurring" preventing me from driving safely. I had a sight test on the first visit to the doctor and could clearly see the "Bottom Line" of the chart with BOTH eyes. My Iris reverted to its normal size a day later but my "Lens Muscles" have STILL not returned to their full control 2 WEEKS Later! "Mydrilate" works by "Paralysing" the Iris (Mydriasis) and Lens (Cycloplegia) muscles. The literature states that "Cycloplegia" (Paralysis of the Lens Muscles) using the "Cyclopentolate" should disperse within "24 Hours". My eye is STILL "Blurred" - an eye test is now "Third Row from the Bottom" and I don't know what to do next. I've tried "Eye Focusing Exercises" for a while now to "Strengthen" the "Lens Muscles" but with no improvement. Comments please. Harvey Twyman http://www.Twyman.org.uk/CV So you say you had normal sight without glasses before the trauma and then the doctors for curing the effects of the trauma, have destroyed your normal sight by use of cycloplegic dreugs? > So you say you had normal sight without glasses before the trauma and > then the doctors for curing the effects of the trauma, have destroyed > your normal sight by use of cycloplegic dreugs? In iritis, cycloplegics reduce pain and prevent adhesions. You'd rather let them suffer. -MT You do not know how to relieve sufferings, answer to this man pains if you can. Give him an answer why his doctor blundered. g.ga...@agora.it wrote: > You do not know how to relieve sufferings, answer to this man pains if > you can. > > Give him an answer why his doctor blundered. Dear Rishi, Subject: RM's arrogance You are right. No one answered the question about due care and concern about the fact that the man should have been informed of potential adverse consequences of these drugs. Instead they attack me for even mentioning the necessity of informed consent. And you tell me they are not arrogant? This man has the potential to file a lawsuit based on the failure to provide this information to him. Best, Otis Engineer >> Give him an answer why his doctor blundered. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > based on the failure to provide this > information to him. That's the answer-- sue somebody! If you only understood even a little bit about cyclopentolate and how the eye works you would realize what a fool you would make of yourself if you tried such a stunt. Of course I wouldn't like filing a law suit against an eye doctor-- because I am part of the "conspiracy of eye doctors" (by the way guys, our next meeting is scheduled in Bermuda on March 12th). Otis, you are too ignorant of the way the eye works, and the way topical medications such as cyclopentolate work, to know anything about this issue. I hope you value your close relationship with Rishi the Italian nutcase because he's the only one in this newsgroup who gives any credibility to your opinions. I, for one, think your postings are a potential heath hazard to innocent patients and that you should be stopped. > Otis, you are too ignorant of the way the eye works, and the way topical > medications such as cyclopentolate work, to know anything about this issue. > I hope you value your close relationship with Rishi the Italian nutcase > because he's the only one in this newsgroup who gives any credibility to > your opinions. I, for one, think your postings are a potential heath hazard > to innocent patients and that you should be stopped. Please Mr. Idiot, answer why your patient had the eyesight destroyed by following with care your standards of treatment. You idiot. you must be the Italian idiot that RM refered to. How can anyone tell what the cause of the reduced vision is for this patient-- there is insufficient information. Without examining him myself I would imagine his problem stems from his original problem-- iritis. He needs to see a good eye doctor and ask these questions. What would you recommend-- sungazing and leeches? First of all, "Brown," the use of a mydriatic and a steroid is the "standard of care" in the treatment of anterior uveitis. There is no need for an "informed consent agreement" here. Secondly, there is no evidence that the mydriatic is the cause of this man's problem, inasmuch as the exact nature of the problem has not been disclosed. Now, go back and try to cure your myopia. DrG > g.ga...@agora.it wrote: > > You do not know how to relieve sufferings, answer to this man pains [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Otis > Engineer there was no wrong-doing on the part of the eye doctor here. The treatment he received is routine and no "informed consent" is required. The patient is likely suffering from further consequences of his iritis and the eye drops he received has nothing to do with it. otisbrown apparently has some axes to grind against eye care professionals. He likewise has a weak understanding of routine eye care. > Comments please. Here's one - too many caps and quotes. So how many times did you use the cyclopentolate? Two or three? Once? The blur from cyclopentolate is much more noticeable _up close_. Unless you're farsighted, the distance blur results from large pupils, not cycloplegia. Can you focus up close with that eye? If so, cycloplegia isn't the culprit. (Of course that also depends on your age, which you don't give.) There may be other reasons for the blur - damage from the original trauma, as well as iris adhesions and aqueous flare. -MT Dear Harvey, Some people have adverse reactions to druges. Atropine is a poison. Some have violent reactions to it. You should have been informed of these possible consequences of the use of these drugs and their derivitives. Did you sign a "concent" form indicating that you had been so informed? I deeply regret the consequences of these drugs causing loss of distant vision. Please let us know how you cleared your vison back to reading "the bottom line". Best, Otis > I deeply regret the consequences of these drugs > causing loss of distant vision. And I deeply regret that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Aspirin is a poison. Vitamin A is a poison. Giving advice from ignorance is poison, too. Would you explain to us how cyclopentolate could cause loss of distance vision? Would you cite the incidence of loss of vision from cyclopentolate? Would you suggest some other agent more appropriate during an attack of iritis? I thought not. -MT > Atropine is a poison. Some have violent reactions to it. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I deeply regret the consequences of these drugs > causing loss of distant vision. You, sir, are an idiot. Once again you are handing out medical advise when you don't know what you are talking about. What does the MINOR toxic affects of ocular administration of atropine have to do with this patient who was given cyclopentolate anyway? They are quite different drugs. And ocular administration of either has virtually no risk of harming anyone unless someone pours the whole bottle in their eye and gets half of it in their mouth. If might seem otherwise to a layperson such as yourself who reads the side effects in a PDR, but everything seems scary to a person who doesn't know very much-- and that's you Otis! The problem this person is experiencing has nothing to do with drug toxicity. I would love to find a way to sick the authorities on you for your propensity to try to practice medicine without a license. > I would love to find a way to sick the authorities on you for your > propensity to try to practice medicine without a license. But what about the physicians who treated this man and destroyed his eyesight? Let poor Otis go. Please explain what has happened to this man, who followed licensed medical men and was simply befooled. > Dear Harvey, > > Some people have adverse reactions to druges. > > Atropine is a poison. Some have violent reactions to it. Atropine? When this come up. > You should have been informed of these possible > consequences of the use of these drugs [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I deeply regret the consequences of these drugs > causing loss of distant vision. Here you go again. With the little information that was offered, you concluded that vision loss was due to the drugs. Was this the best corrected visual acuity? You don't know? But your conclusion: Loss of (distant) Vision. Very dramatic. do you even know what that means? Did the risk of side effects outweigh the benifits of the drugs in question? Do doctors now stop prescribing drugs to avoid being sued and are then sued because they did not follow the standard of care? I have concluded that you are a health hazard. Where is you disclaimer. Roland J. Izaac > Please let us know how you cleared your vison back > to reading "the bottom line". > > Best, > > Otis |
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