Medical Forum / General / Vision / January 2005
New Varilux Comfort PAL's Really Excellent!
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Joe Stella - 11 Jan 2005 01:34 GMT I made a post here about 6 weeks ago regarding my (awful) experience with Lenscrafters progressives. Based upon the advice of some people here, I went to a "real" optician.
The woman I dealt with was obviously far more knowlegeable than anyone at Lenscrafters. She took very a very careful PD measurement and recommended Varilux Comfort lenses. I decided to get the 1.67 for lower lens thickness and weight.
Today I picked them up. When I first put them on, I was just astounded. For a moment, I thought they messed up and gave me single vision glasses by mistake. That's how little side distortion there was.
I don't know if Panamics would have been any better than these are. She told me that Panamics are better for lenses that are more narrow than mine. Anyway, I'm really happy with these. My local professional OD has a new customer and I don't think I'll be going back to "The McDonald's of Eyeglasses" any time soon.
Many Thanks to all those who offered me advice last time!
Robert Martellaro - 14 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT >I made a post here about 6 weeks ago regarding my (awful) >experience with Lenscrafters progressives. Based upon the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Many Thanks to all those who offered me advice last time! Joe,
Glad to hear all is well. And if you think buying glasses at Lenscrafters (probably the best one hour commercial chain) is filled with adventure you can imagine how bad it is at places like Costco, Shopko, Eyeworld, Sams/Walmart America's Best etc. Don't forget to recommend your optician to friends and family.
Robert
Mark A - 14 Jan 2005 20:30 GMT > Joe, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Robert I am not sure that I agree with this assessment. Lenscraters uses inferior products that they put their own brand name on. Most of sales people have no idea the actual manufacturer and model of the lens. Many of them don't even know the lens material. But Wal-Mart, Sams, and Costco sell brand name products so you always know what you are getting.
Lenscrafters may be better than the other 1 hour chains, but nowhere near as good Wal-Mart, Sams , and Costco (which do not offer 1 hour service).
Robert Martellaro - 17 Jan 2005 17:41 GMT >> Joe, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Lenscrafters may be better than the other 1 hour chains, but nowhere near as >good Wal-Mart, Sams , and Costco (which do not offer 1 hour service). Mark,
Give me the crappiest lens design and material and nine out of ten times I can make it perform better than the best lenses fit poorly by the inexperienced novice optician/clerk employed by the above. So I would not be too concerned if a company goes the route of house brands as long as they keep an experienced and knowledgable staff. But if Lenscrafters is now filled with starry-eyed trainees then all bets are off. I've wondered about their quality since they started to discount heavily to compete with the other discounters. Sigh.
Regards
Robert
Robert Martellaro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Optician/Owner Roberts Optical robopt@execpc.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself." - Richard Feynman
Mark A - 17 Jan 2005 20:48 GMT > Mark, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Robert Martellaro My point is that Lenscrafters uses inferior brands across the spectrum and renames them so that you can't tell what you are buying. You can't comparison shop apples to apples (by design). The salespeople don't even know what they are.
On the contrary, Wal-Mart/Sams and Costco carry brand names products which they identify by name, including some top-of-the-line models. Of course, these cannot be processed in one hour since they have to be shipped from a lab.
In my survey of salespeople that I did about 2 years ago, Lenscrafters salespeople were pitiful, and Wal-Mart was actually pretty good on average. I also compared independent optical and opticians working in OD offices in my survey. I judged the sales people by asking them questions about products, lens materials, abbe values, etc to see if they knew the answer. I sampled about 8 people in each category.
Biggest problem with Wal-Mart/Sams and Costco is their limited selection of frames and lenses. But I also found that many independents are loath to order products that they have never ordered before, possibly because it means using a different lab or because of manufacturer volume sales incentives. One thing about Wal-Mart that I noticed is that they tend to hire a lot older people, and many of them wore progressives (much higher percent than Lenscrafters).
Bottom line is that I would not put Wal-Mart in the same category as Lenscrafters. Of course, for low power SV lenses, the differences may be less noticeable.
kemccx@gmail.com - 22 Jan 2005 23:51 GMT anyone have a recommendation for an optician in NYC who is very knowledgeable and patient? (patient being the optimum word). I need progressives - which are very strong in the reading portion.
kemccx@gmail.com - 24 Jan 2005 14:22 GMT I mean optometrist, not optician. I have another question (obsessive, I know). After cataract surgery on left eye, left eye is at -1.50, right eye is still at -6.50. Left eye has excellent intermediate vision - can even see the computer unaided - but distance is blurry and near vision is not good (presbyopia). Right eye can only see clear extremely close up (about 4,5" from face). Question - if I wear a contact lens in right eye to bring to plano, what kind of glasses can I wear to correct both eyes at all distances? Right eye will need intermediate and close, left eye will need distance and close. Is it even possible?
LarryDoc - 24 Jan 2005 17:01 GMT > I mean optometrist, not optician. I have another question (obsessive, I > know). After cataract surgery on left eye, left eye is at -1.50, right [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Right eye will need intermediate and close, left eye will need distance > and close. Is it even possible? Optically, anything is possible. The question is, what provides the best vision "experience."
Three (of the many) options for you to consider: (All of this is predicated on that your IOL eye has similar net acuity as the non-cat surgery eye with best correction for both.)
1. One contact lens for RIGHT eye to bring it to -1.50 and spectacle PAL to provide the full range of distance to near. The advantage here is that without your glasses, you will have reasonable intermediate and some near vision (depending upon your right eye's presbyopia.) Disadvantage is that you need to have your glasses on for distance vision.
2. Contact lenses for both eyes to bring them to plano and spectacle PAL as above. The advantages here is that is often more comfortable physically to have contact lenses on both eyes and constant excellent distance vision, the disadvantage is having to use glasses for intermediate and near, but the PAL design is often more comfortable with little power in the distance zone.
A third and most elegant option is to use a multifocal contact lens. If you have some focusing ability, the lens goes in the right eye with full correction for distance, the left eye leave alone. Or multifocal lenses in both eyes. The disadvantage is that your brain will need some time to adjust and process the information (especially if one lens), but if it does, you will have excellent vision across the full range of distances, and you may not glasses at all.
I've done all of these options for patients and some of the decision is based on when or if the other eye gets an IOL and, as stated in the beginning, the net acuity of each eye.
Good luck in your decision(s).
--LB, O.D.
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