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Low-Tension Glaucoma

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Gita Enders - 04 Jan 2005 00:18 GMT
I was recently diagnosed with low-tension glaucoma in my left eye, and
was prescribed Timolol GFS with punctal occlusion. I am 46 years old and
my eyeglass prescription is as follows

              SPH.           CYL           AXIS
R            -12.00         +2.25           143
L            -13.75         + .75            43

Both eyes have +2.75 added for reading.

I am posting to find out if anyone has experienced a similar diagnosis,
and to see if anyone has any idea what kind of prognosis I can expect.

Thanks.

G.
otisbrown@pa.net - 04 Jan 2005 02:28 GMT
Dear Gita,
Please provide the "pressure" reading
you were given.

Pressure is given in mm of mecury.
15 mm would be a reasonable pressure.

Please have your eye doctor explain
exactly what he means by "low tension".

Best,
Otis
Engineer
drfrank21@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2005 03:39 GMT
> Dear Gita,
> Please provide the "pressure" reading
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Otis
> Engineer

Otis,
Otis, why are you even responding to this post?? This is a type of post
that is way
beyond your scope "sic"  and are doing a dis-service to the poster. You
are
totally out of your league.  You should have done at least a google
search
on low tesion,normal tension glaucoma to know that there is such an
entity.

frank
otisbrown@pa.net - 04 Jan 2005 05:12 GMT
Dear Frank,
This is an "open forum".  What don't YOU ANSWER
her question -- rather than giving me a hard time
about it?

Best,

Otis
Engineer
drfrank21@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2005 16:14 GMT
> Dear Frank,
> This is an "open forum".  What don't YOU ANSWER
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Otis
> Engineer

It may be an open forum but you have ABSOLUTELY NO MEDICAL BACKGROUND
AND
NOTHING to contribute to this poster other than causing her confusion.
You didn't
even have a clue that ltg/ntg even exists for crying out loud. Immed
after responding
to you I did post to Gita to help her. Check it.

You are getting into dangerous territory when you respond to posts like
these
- it's frightening to me because it seems like you ACTUALLY believe you
know the
answers to now even eye care MEDICAL issues. If you had responded to
her post by
stating that you're not an eye provider but that one of the eye docs on
this ng
can answer your questions I would not have gotten on your case.
NOT the best,
frank
Dan Abel - 04 Jan 2005 21:11 GMT
> > Dear Frank,
> > This is an "open forum".  What don't YOU ANSWER
> > her question -- rather than giving me a hard time
> > about it?

Well, why didn't *you* anwer her questions?  Her first question was:

>>>I am posting to find out if anyone has experienced a similar diagnosis,

and her second question was:

>>>and to see if anyone has any idea what kind of prognosis I can expect.

> You are getting into dangerous territory when you respond to posts like
> these
> - it's frightening to me because it seems like you ACTUALLY believe you
> know the
> answers to now even eye care MEDICAL issues.

Welcome to life!  We've all met people IRL (In Real Life) who have an
answer to every question, even though they know nothing about the
subject.  Personally I believe that these people are attracted to
newsgroups, because there are lots of questions.

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Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
dabel@sonic.net

Gita Enders - 04 Jan 2005 03:57 GMT
: Please provide the "pressure" reading
: you were given.

The pressure in both eyes is 18.

G.
Philip D Izaac - 04 Jan 2005 10:58 GMT
> Dear Gita,
> Please provide the "pressure" reading
> you were given.

Exactly what are you doing here? Are you helping the Px with some advice or
are you confusing her further.
How would the presure reading change the diagnosis, unless of cause it it
over 21mm/hg

> Pressure is given in mm of mecury.
> 15 mm would be a reasonable pressure.

Which can well be seen in NTG
Did you ask for visual fields? No
Did you ask for corneal pachymetry results? No
How about asking if an evaluation was done for other causes of optic
neuropathy.

> Please have your eye doctor explain
> exactly what he means by "low tension".

Explain to her so she can inturn explain to you. Come on Otis, you write
here as if you are an authority. Regular visitors of this news group know
and understand that your knowledge on the subject is poorly lacking. My
concern is however for those new comers.

In future please add at the end of your text.

I am not a doctor, My knowledge on the subject is poorly lacking, please
take my advice with a pinch of salt.

> Best,
> Otis
> Engineer
Neil Brooks - 04 Jan 2005 16:17 GMT
Philip D Izaac wrote (in response to Otis):

> Exactly what are you doing here? Are you helping the Px with some
> advice or are you confusing her further.
> How would the presure reading change the diagnosis, unless of cause
> it it over 21mm/hg

[snip]

> Did you ask for visual fields? No
> Did you ask for corneal pachymetry results? No
> How about asking if an evaluation was done for other causes of optic
> neuropathy.

[snip]

> Explain to her so she can inturn explain to you. Come on Otis, you
> write here as if you are an authority. Regular visitors of this news
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I am not a doctor, My knowledge on the subject is poorly lacking,
> please take my advice with a pinch of salt.

Seems to be, at least, a plurality here, Otis . . . if that means anything
to you.
drfrank21@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2005 03:45 GMT
> I was recently diagnosed with low-tension glaucoma in my left eye, and
> was prescribed Timolol GFS with punctal occlusion. I am 46 years old and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> G.

Prognosis is usually good in most cases if treated in time and with the

proper meds although I've have some cases of ltg/ntg (low
tension/normal tension)
that have been more challenging to control vesus primary angle
glaucoma.
The key for you is proper compliance to the treatment and follow-up
care.

frank
Gita Enders - 04 Jan 2005 03:59 GMT
: The key for you is proper compliance to the treatment and follow-up
: care.

Thank you. I tell you, I worry about having to use eyedrops for the rest
of my life, and almost wish there was a surgery of some kind that would
"fix" the problem.

G.
Mike Tyner - 04 Jan 2005 04:34 GMT
> Thank you. I tell you, I worry about having to use eyedrops for the rest
> of my life, and almost wish there was a surgery of some kind that would
> "fix" the problem.

Surgery is an option, but it has its problems too. Sometimes it's only
marginally effective and you wind up using drops anyway.

There are several different medications used to lower pressure. Are you
using drops once a day, or several times a day? Are you using one variety of
medication, or two or more?

Whatever the method, treating glaucoma usually requires reducing the
pressure by 30% or more. Prognosis depends largely on compliance, so it's
important to "have a talk with yourself" about determination and
consistency.

43 is a little young for NTG. Roughly half the glaucoma among Japanese is
NTG. Do you have Japanese ancestry?

-MT, OD
Gita Enders - 04 Jan 2005 15:47 GMT
: There are several different medications used to lower pressure. Are you
: using drops once a day, or several times a day? Are you using one variety
: of medication, or two or more?

Mine is a once-a-day drop, which I use in the morning. Sometimes I end
up showering a couple of hours after I use the drop, which worries me.

: Whatever the method, treating glaucoma usually requires reducing the
: pressure by 30% or more. Prognosis depends largely on compliance, so it's
: important to "have a talk with yourself" about determination and
: consistency.

Oh no, I'm the compliant type. I drop that sucker and then sit for three
minutes with the eye closed, holding the tear duct closed as well.

: 43 is a little young for NTG. Roughly half the glaucoma among Japanese is
: NTG. Do you have Japanese ancestry?

Heh, no. My doctor did say that I had the kind of damage he would have
expected to see in someone 20 or 40 years older, though. Sigh.

I got the impression that he thought it was related to my myopia, if such
a thing is possible.

G.
crvc@wyoming.com - 04 Jan 2005 15:21 GMT
I don't think my history would apply here but I had a glaucoma scare a
few years ago.   At an optometrist's appointment they used a new device
(GRX? GNX?) to measure the optic nerve density.  According to the OD,
the test showed I had less than 20% of my optic nerve left.  My
pressures were normal.   He wanted to start eyedrops for glaucoma.    I
went for a second opinion at a university.  They found I had no
glaucoma but said the LASIK surgery I'd had years before  caused a
false reading on the GRX.   Doing a search on Medline I found abstracts
showing the machine will cause false positives in LASIK patients.

While waiting for the second opinion appointment I spent days online
researching glaucoma.  It seemed that doctors are evenly divided
between surgical or medical treatments.  I found no consensus on what's
considered the best treatment but this was at least 3 years ago.
Good luck.
 
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