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Medical Forum / General / Vision / December 2004help obtaining some supplies
I went to my optometrist. He recommended an eye exercise for my strabismus/v-syndrome that would use a red and a green lense, some kind of clips (vannelli, ginelli, can't remember the name) for each eye to hold the lense on, and a red and green filter taped to the monitor of my PC, all the while I play some kind of computer game. The purpose of the exercise is to reward the brain for using both eyes together. Any ideas where I can get these supplies? 3D glasses might do something similar, but they wouldn't really have the negative reinforcement that the red-green lenses would. > I went to my optometrist. He recommended an eye exercise for my > strabismus/v-syndrome that would use a red and a green lense, some kind of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 3D glasses might do something similar, but they wouldn't really have the > negative reinforcement that the red-green lenses would. Why don't you ask your doctor? If you wanted to order the stuff yourself, you would need the precise names of the items, which you don't have. "Some kind of" wont do. PS; spell check: LENS not lense. --LB, O.D. > Why don't you ask your doctor? If you wanted to order the stuff > yourself, you would need the precise names of the items, which you don't > have. "Some kind of" wont do. > > PS; spell check: LENS not lense. Why play games: if you know what I'm trying to do, you could suggest the names. Don't be a dick. > Why play games: if you know what I'm trying to do, you could suggest the > names. Don't be a dick. I'm not a Dick, I am a Larry. This is not a game, it's a discussion group and the class has given you a grade of F. >> Why don't you ask your doctor? If you wanted to order the stuff >> yourself, you would need the precise names of the items, which you don't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Why play games: if you know what I'm trying to do, you could suggest the > names. Don't be a dick. The item(s) you are describing, "HTS," or "Home Therapy System," can only be purchased through an optometrist. The manufacturers will not sell to laypersons at all. Go ahead and try; you will realize that you are the one who is being a dick. http://www.homevisiontherapy.com/ Francine > The item(s) you are describing, "HTS," or "Home Therapy System," can only be > purchased through an optometrist. The manufacturers will not sell to > laypersons at all. I can go down to Walgreens and buy an eyepatch. I suppose they should ban that, too, lest I try out occlusion therapy on my own and deprive an optometrist of some $$$. >Go ahead and try; you will realize that you are the one > who is being a dick. > > http://www.homevisiontherapy.com/ Looks interesting, but what my optometrist was proposing sounds better because it: - would be simpler - would integrate with stuff I already do, playing computer games I do need to see a vision therapist for evaluation for driving, but that is another matter. The bottom line is the tools I need are rather simple and there's nothing mysterious about them. >> The item(s) you are describing, "HTS," or "Home Therapy System," can only > be [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > is another matter. The bottom line is the tools I need are rather simple > and there's nothing mysterious about them. I think your optometrist probably was referring to HTS. I believe that this is what most VT-Optometrists use. It isn't "simple," and it is rather like a computer game. The "mystery" is how one should best use it. HTS was developed by Jeffrey Cooper, OD, and a couple of programmers. I myself wish they would provide their program directly to people who have been doing VT for a long time, like me, but even I have to obtain it through my eye docs. They are family friends who fortunately give it to me at cost. I don't know a thing about programming, so I can't say whether the program was difficult or simple to write. It is based on stereograms and gets progressively more difficult for both Base In and Base Out viewing. There are also subprograms for tracking, saccades, etc. I absolutely would NOT advise anyone to do this with no supervision. There are ways to misuse any system of eye exercises, reinforcing existing bad habits, etc. But I suppose you could hire someone to write a similar program for you if you are insistent on doing it all on your own. If you don't distribute it, you would probably not be in violation of any copyright laws. Fran > I think your optometrist probably was referring to HTS. I believe that this > is what most VT-Optometrists use. It isn't "simple," and it is rather like a > computer game. No, my optometrist was literally suggesting that I just play my usual computer games, but that I use a red and green filter over the screen, coupled with some red and green glasses. I'd start out with the monitor low, and gradually raise it up to heat height. Since the purpose is simple- to see with both eyes, I don't see how it would be possible to misuse something like that. You either will see the whole screen at once, or half of it will be blocked off, it's that simple. I might consider an HTS system, and I definitely will at least consult with a VT therapist at some point, but it will ultimately come down to the cost vs. the benefits. I have visited a vision training therapist before, and honestly it seemed like he was trying to sell me a 5,000 dollar course of playing primitive videogames. If I can have somebody explain to me a clear goal, maybe I'll change my tune. If all you are looking for is Red/Blue glasses, try this link: http://www.tfve.net/catalog.html But I seriously doubt that your optometrist wanted you to try these glasses with just any old computer game. The VT exercises are specially designed so you have to use both eyes while wearing the glasses. The effect is not seen at all without them. Once again I must reiterate that VT is not a simple process. If I thought it was, I would hang out a shingle myself. It is akin to physical therapy, and what is its purpose? In your case, to make your eyes line up correctly and work in tandem with each other as they were meant to. I'm sure that your OD has explained this to you. You don't mention if you are amblyopic, which would complicate matters further. It sounds like you are asking for a "recipe" or program on how to do VT yourself. No one is keeping the information from you. A program of treatment will vary from patient to patient, and even from doctor to doctor. There is really nothing stopping you from doing VT all on your own; you just won't get very good results. You can get all the "stuff" you want by do a web search using the keywords "Vision Therapy Supplies," "Vision Therapy Equipment," Vision Training Supplies," and so on. You will wind up spending more money than you should, when what you really need is expert advice and a program set up by a qualified vision training professional. For more info on VT, you can try one of the following links: http://www.covd.org http://www.oep.org http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/focus_on_vision_training/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/vision_therapy/ Best regards, Francine ````````` >> I think your optometrist probably was referring to HTS. I believe that > this [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > of playing primitive videogames. If I can have somebody explain to me a > clear goal, maybe I'll change my tune. I know Walgreens has sunglasses with different colored lenses. Might get them on their online store. I forget if they are one piece or two for each eye...maybe you can break them apart to get the colors you need. > I went to my optometrist. He recommended an eye exercise for my > strabismus/v-syndrome that would use a red and a green lense, some kind of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 3D glasses might do something similar, but they wouldn't really have the > negative reinforcement that the red-green lenses would.
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