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Wife had brain injury, now has blurred vision

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Dyhibb - 15 Dec 2004 03:49 GMT
On September 1, 2002, my wife had an accident which resulted in a severe brain
injury to the right side of the head. One of the results of the injury was the
left eye turned towards her nose and would not move toward the center. She had
two surgeries last year and the eye will now move to just left of center and
all the way to the right.

She has been complaining of getting very dizzy  mostly when she is standing or
walking but sometimes when she is sitting.

She was checked out by a neuro-opthomologist and he said the current
prescription for her glasses was still fine and said that she may still be
recovering from the surgery she had in October to put in a skull plate.

Then she was checked out by an audiology specialist and he asked her to
describe her dizziness and decided it was more of a blurred vision problem.

We are waiting for an appointment for her to get some "vestibular testing" but
after doing some research on the internet, I am wondering if I should skip the
vestibular testing and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro ophthalmologist.

Also, I came across some web sites that sell software for vision therapy. Are
these programs any good?

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks, David
Rushtown - 15 Dec 2004 06:37 GMT
>and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
>or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro ophthalmologist.
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>
>Thanks, David

Stick with MDs---but change if you are not satisfied.
(This isn't really an eye problem but a neurological problem)
Dr. Leukoma - 15 Dec 2004 12:29 GMT
>>and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
>>or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro
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> Stick with MDs---but change if you are not satisfied.
> (This isn't really an eye problem but a neurological problem)

Aw, gee thanks for the vote of confidence in optometry.  Now just what is
it that the neuro-ophthalmologist is going to be able to offer?

People go through rehab with phycial therapists all the time following
"neurological" injuries.  The neurologist doesn't conduct the PT.  Same
relationship holds in this situation.

DrG
Dyhibb - 15 Dec 2004 14:59 GMT
>>>and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
>>>or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro
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>
>DrG

Below is a paragraph from one of the web pages I found while looking around the
net. I found some of the statements very familiar except in our case there is
no litigation involved and my wife's vision is blurry not  double vision
(unless the double vision is so minor that it just makes her vision seem
blurry).

The following paragraph is from the web site:
http://www.headinjurylaw.com/vision2.htm

The software of the visual system consists of the neural wiring of the optic
nerve, the optic
chiasm, the optic tracts and their offshoots, the lateral geniculate nucleus
(LGN) of the
thalamus, the optic radiations from the LGN and the visual cortex located at
the back of
the brain in the occipital lobe. The wiring is made up of thin, delicate axons
and the visual
processing units in the LGN and visual cortex consist of tiny living cells with
fragile
membranes. The axons are vulnerable to stretch/strain damage and the cells are
vulnerable to shaking or perturbation which can damage or kill them. Closed
head trauma
causing "mild tbi" (with minimal or no loss of consciousness) frequently
traumatizes the
software of the visual system with disruption of binocular vision such as
blurry or double
vision. However, closed head brain trauma which damages the vision software
causes no
detectable mechanical damage to eye structures and no cranial nerve damage with
easily
detectible strabismus or hyperopia. The patient's eyes look fine. He can still
read an eye
chart. His brain shows no bleeding on CT or swelling/compression on MRI. In
such cases,
and there are many thousands every year, the typical ophthalmologist chalks up
the
patient's complaints of double vision to "hysteria" or "malingering,"
especially when they
learn a claim has been filed. This not only wounds the feelings of the patients
(who know
they are telling the truth, their vision really is double) but deprives them of
necessary
treatment and may ruin their personal injury lawsuit or workers compensation
claim
without good reason.

Thanks, David
John Hasenkam - 30 Dec 2004 02:41 GMT
1.

The brain injury described (so vaguely) does suggest DAI (diffuse axonal
injury) did arise. DAI is a very useful marker for damage done via TBI.
There are some scans that can detect DAI, that may be worth persuing but it
will only confirm DAI, not much that can be done about it. Vision problems
are not uncommon post tbi though the exact reasons remain unclear. Dizziness
also occurs post tbi.

2.

Don't skip the vestibular testing, should at least be checked out.

3.

The internet is replete with miracle cures, enter at your own risk. Caveat
emptor.

4.

Does your wife *always* experience double vision and dizziness. There may be
some merit in trying to determine what makes it worse, the frequency of the
symptoms and any correlations noted. Did the symptom appear before the
corrective surgery?

5.

Given the injury you should consider some dietary changes that may aid
recovery. Nothing spectacular, mostly common sense, but post TBI some
dietary changes can be beneficial for recovery. Don't fall for the "miracle
herbs fallacy", in fact don't even try the same without first consulting the
doctor. Some non-traditional forms of therapy can help but you need to be
very careful about this. MUCH wiser to go for an optimal diet that
facilitates brain recovery.

http://www.neuroskills.com/index.shtml?main=/edu/ceumtbi18.shtml

Check out in above link: Vision and TBI under directories pull down menu on
the left.

http://www.brainplace.com/bp/prescriptions/default.asp

This site has a variety of links related to keeping the brain healthy.

> >>>and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
> >>>or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro
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>
> Thanks, David
Dyhibb - 15 Dec 2004 14:43 GMT
>>and get her an appointment with a "functional optometrist"
>>or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro ophthalmologist.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Stick with MDs---but change if you are not satisfied.
>(This isn't really an eye problem but a neurological problem)

Thanks for your suggestion. She has seen two neuro ophthalmologists. One atter
the nerve surgery on her left eye and another after the last surgery to install
the skull plate. That is why I am considering other options.

Thanks, David
Dazzler - 15 Dec 2004 12:28 GMT
Take a look at this for starters.
http://www.iblindness.org/books/bates/
Dyhibb - 15 Dec 2004 14:59 GMT
>Take a look at this for starters.
>http://www.iblindness.org/books/bates/

Thanks, I will check it out.

David
g.gatti@agora.it - 15 Dec 2004 15:21 GMT
but don't behave as the people at that site, they are true ignorants,
as all the other professionals in this field.
this is a matter of spiritual quest.

http://thecentralfixation.com
Dr Judy - 18 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT
> On September 1, 2002, my wife had an accident which resulted in a severe
> brain
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> optometrist"
> or "neuro-optometrist" instead of going back to a neuro ophthalmologist.

Dizziness is almost always due to a vestibular problem, get that done first.

Vision training by optometrists is directed primarily at improving binocular
vision.  Your wife does not have binocular vision due to major damage to the
6th cranial nerve which controls the lateral rectus of her left eye; the
muscle is not working and will not be made to work with vision training.
Sometimes the nerve recovers after injury, recovery may take months to
years.   The neuro ophthalmologist who knows the details of your wife's
injury and surgeries can tell you whether any recovery is expected.

> Also, I came across some web sites that sell software for vision therapy.
> Are
> these programs any good?

Usually these programs are used in conjunction with a vision training person
(either optometrist or occupational therapist) who knows the details of your
wife's injury and could tell you whether a program would work and recommend
a specific one.   Again, most are directed at improving binocular fusion
which your wife will likely not achieve due to the nerve damage.

Dr Judy

> Any comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks, David
Dyhibb - 21 Dec 2004 04:27 GMT
HI Dr. Judy,

Thanks for your suggestions.

David

>> On September 1, 2002, my wife had an accident which resulted in a severe
>> brain
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>>
>> Thanks, David
David Robins, MD - 05 Apr 2005 04:36 GMT
Do a simple test: cover one eye with an eyepatch. Is the dizziness and/or
visual blur still the same?

If yes, then it is unrelated to binocular eye cooperation problems, as using
one eye eliminates that.

If the blur is gone, try the other eye - is the blur related to one of the
eyes (probably not.)

If there is still dizziness with one eye covered, try closing BOTH eyes. If
there is still dizziness, then it is definitedly NOT related to the eyes,
and they are out of the picture when they are both closed.

Regarding Dr. Judy's comment that she does not have binocular vision - may
not be entirely true.
if the muscle surgery (sounds like a transposition of Foster procedure for
total 6th nerve paralysis) was successful, and the eye is aligned in primary
position, even though there is lateral gaze limitation, there is no reason
not to have binocular vision where the eyes are aligned. Of course, if the
visual axes do no line up at all, then, no, there is no binocular vision.
These muscle procedures can restore or increase the field of single
binocular vision, or move it more towards the center, although the extent
will be limited.


David Robins, MD
Board certified Ophthalmologist
Pediatric and strabismus subspecialty
Member of AAPOS
(American Academy of Pediatric Ophthalmology and Strabismus)

On 12/14/04 8:49 PM, in article
20041214224955.11961.00001619@mb-m16.aol.com, "Dyhibb" <dyhibb@aol.com>
wrote:

> On September 1, 2002, my wife had an accident which resulted in a severe brain
> injury to the right side of the head. One of the results of the injury was the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Thanks, David
g.gatti@agora.it - 05 Apr 2005 22:10 GMT
> If there is still dizziness with one eye covered, try closing BOTH eyes. If
> there is still dizziness, then it is definitedly NOT related to the eyes,
> and they are out of the picture when they are both closed.

Dizziness is ALWAYS created by the eyes.

Now you see how these doctors are completely ignorant of the truth?

This test is very easy: if he feels dizziness with eyes closed, the
answer is that with eyes closed the strain is most.

The patient should learn some methods for resting his eyes and mind and
find a way to improve his condition.

Little improvements bring forth big improvements.

Eyeglasses must be avoided.

http://TheCentralFixation.com
Dr. Leukoma - 06 Apr 2005 12:15 GMT
It seems to me that with so many visits to the neuro-ophthalmologist,
that any problem with visual acuity would have been documented.  Go
figure.

DrG
 
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