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space - 07 Dec 2004 16:23 GMT
At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my
left eye in March of this year. A month later smaller and much less
noticeable ones appeared in my right eye. I was told by the opthalmologist
to watch out for flashing lights in the future etc.

Since then, I've occasionally seen tiny randomised flashing lights that last
approx 30 seconds but I've always put this down to slight dizziness - I even
used to experience this pre floaters if I stood up too quickly or whatever.
Anyway today I arrived home, bent down to take shoes off and saw stars. They
were larger than the "dizzy episode lights" and appeared to be travelling
forwards in a symmetrical circle, I didn't feel dizzy at all. They seemed to
be just in my worst eye (although it's very difficult to be sure on this)
but they only lasted approx 30 seconds again. I've tried to make them happen
again, by shaking head, bending over etc, but nothing happens. Do these
stars sound like a possible detached retina or am I over reacting?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Dec 2004 17:30 GMT
> At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my

Wow, that's a good case: detachment of the retina with perfect vision!
Very rare to find.

Doctor Tyner will counsel you very eagerly.
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Dec 2004 17:32 GMT
> At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my

Wow, that's a good case: detachment of the retina with perfect vision!
Very rare to find.

Doctor Tyner will counsel you very eagerly.
space - 07 Dec 2004 17:46 GMT
Glad you find it amusing. I'd been told approximately 6 months earlier at a
routine eye test that I had 20/20 vision, this is what I meant. Then I had
the floaters. The reason I mentioned the perfect vision, was because I was
told that usually floaters occurring in younger people is either due to
trauma to the eye or short sightedness, but what do I know. This is why I
came here. I obviously don't have perfect vision anymore.

> > At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared
> in my
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>
> Doctor Tyner will counsel you very eagerly.
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Dec 2004 20:31 GMT
> Glad you find it amusing. I'd been told approximately 6 months earlier at a
> routine eye test that I had 20/20 vision, this is what I meant. Then I had
> the floaters. The reason I mentioned the perfect vision, was because I was
> told that usually floaters occurring in younger people is either due to
> trauma to the eye or short sightedness, but what do I know. This is why I
> came here. I obviously don't have perfect vision anymore.

Well, "perfect sight" is defined by Bates as 20/10 vision.

How do you check for your actual vision?
Have they prescribed you a minus lens?
space - 08 Dec 2004 04:08 GMT
All I know g.gatti is that my eye sight was tested pre floaters and they
told me I had very good eye sight and didn't need specs. After the floaters
appeared my eyes were tested again and when the floaters float away from
field of vision (although this doesn't happen very often with the left eye)
my vision is still good and specs would be of no help at all.

> > Glad you find it amusing. I'd been told approximately 6 months
> earlier at a
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> How do you check for your actual vision?
> Have they prescribed you a minus lens?
horsager@gmail.com - 08 Dec 2004 19:54 GMT
> All I know g.gatti is that my eye sight was tested pre floaters and they
> told me I had very good eye sight and didn't need specs. After the floaters
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> > How do you check for your actual vision?
> > Have they prescribed you a minus lens?
Dr Judy - 07 Dec 2004 17:53 GMT
> At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my
> left eye in March of this year. A month later smaller and much less
> noticeable ones appeared in my right eye. I was told by the opthalmologist
> to watch out for flashing lights in the future etc.

Did you have a retinal detachment or a vitreous detachment?

> Since then, I've occasionally seen tiny randomised flashing lights that
> last
> approx 30 seconds but I've always put this down to slight dizziness - I
> even
> used to experience this pre floaters if I stood up too quickly or
> whatever.

Seeing "stars" after standing up quickly is due to postural hypotension,
your blood pressure drops and the brain does not get enough blood
momentarily.

> Anyway today I arrived home, bent down to take shoes off and saw stars.
> They
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> again, by shaking head, bending over etc, but nothing happens. Do these
> stars sound like a possible detached retina or am I over reacting?

Unlikely a detached retina if they only lasted a few seconds.  Again, due to
change in blood flow to the brain with sudden change in height of head
relative to the ground.  You might want to check in with your family doctor
to have blood pressure and cholesterol checked and have him/her listen to
your carotid arteries.  Likely nothing will be found wrong.  Try to avoid
sudden posture changes.

Dr Judy

> Thanks in advance for any advice.
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Dec 2004 20:32 GMT
Again scientific and medical men have no answer.
What poor patient should do?
g.gatti@agora.it - 07 Dec 2004 20:33 GMT
Again scientific and medical men have no answer.
What poor patient should do?
Dan Abel - 07 Dec 2004 21:24 GMT
> "space" <space@nomail.com> wrote in message

> > Since then, I've occasionally seen tiny randomised flashing lights that
> > last
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> your blood pressure drops and the brain does not get enough blood
> momentarily.

When I started taking blood pressure medicine, my doctor gave me a little
mantra to repeat, "sit before you stand, stand before you walk".  So, when
I get out of bed in the morning, I sit on the edge for a few seconds, then
stand for a few seconds, and only then walk.

> > Thanks in advance for any advice.

The general advice for retinal detachments, especially if you have been
warned, is, "better safe than sorry".  When I had my retinal detachment, I
was camping in the wilds of Oregon with my son, far from a doctor and
farther from my HMO.  I delayed going in, partly because I had cataract in
that eye and didn't see too well out of it.  Well, the cataract got fixed,
once it got worse, and it no longer caused any vision problems, but I
permanently lost part of my vision due to the detachment, and, a dozen
years later, I have no hope of getting it back.

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Robert Martellaro - 07 Dec 2004 17:56 GMT
>At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my
>left eye in March of this year. A month later smaller and much less
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>
>Thanks in advance for any advice.

Call  your ophthalmologist right now.  Hopefully it's nothing, but diagnosis
must occur asap. If it is a tear or detachment treatment must occur within 24-48
hours to minimize or prevent permanent vision loss.

Hope this helps

Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
robopt@execpc.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself."
 - Richard Feynman
space - 08 Dec 2004 04:08 GMT
Thanks guys for all your advice. I think as someone said "it's better to be
safe than sorry", so I will get them checked out.

> >At age 37 and with perfect vision, a large floater suddenly appeared in my
> >left eye in March of this year. A month later smaller and much less
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> "Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself."
>   - Richard Feynman
 
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