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DMV part three

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Dan Abel - 30 Nov 2004 22:14 GMT
I posted before about how I twice failed the vision screening at the
California DMV, and my OD said that corrective lenses wouldn't help, and
that the DMV then requires a drive test to prove that you can drive even
though you can't pass the vision screening.  Now, I've been driving mostly
without corrective lenses for the last 2 1/2 years, since my last cataract
surgery, but my license says that I require corrective lenses, so I've
been out of compliance.

So I showed up for my driving test at the DMV yesterday.  Unlike past
visits, the lines were nightmares.  Fortunately, the drive test is given
by appointment only, and the line for that was short.

After the examiner checked the equipment on the car, he tried to diagnose
my eye problems.  I tried my best to explain, but my knowledge is limited
and so was his.  I kept telling him that I had the official DMV form with
my OD signing, and that the OD stated that glasses were not prescribed.
He wanted to know why.  I honestly think that he wasn't hassling me or
trying to disqualify me, but that he really wanted to learn more about
vision problems.  I think he finally accepted my theory that my retinal
detachment was responsible for the problem.

So, he gave me the drive test, about 20 minutes of driving around the
exact area where I've lived for the last 25 years.  I passed easily, and
now for the first time in almost 40 years I have an unrestricted driving
license.

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Rishi Giovanni Gatti - 01 Dec 2004 18:30 GMT
> So, he gave me the drive test, about 20 minutes of driving around the
> exact area where I've lived for the last 25 years.  I passed easily, and
> now for the first time in almost 40 years I have an unrestricted driving
> license.

Poor man, and still you believe in these things???
Dan Abel - 01 Dec 2004 19:25 GMT
> > So, he gave me the drive test, about 20 minutes of driving around the
> > exact area where I've lived for the last 25 years.  I passed easily, and
> > now for the first time in almost 40 years I have an unrestricted driving
> > license.
>
> Poor man, and still you believe in these things???

I usually don't respond to Rishi.  I don't usually even read his posts,
but he was responding directly to one of mine, in a thread that I created.

So, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?  An unrestricted driving
license means that I DON'T WEAR CORRECTIVE LENSES TO DRIVE!  I don't wear
glasses, and I don't wear contacts.  What is there to believe in?

I am heavily dependent on reading glasses, but I DON'T WEAR THEM TO DRIVE.

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Mike Tyner - 01 Dec 2004 19:32 GMT
> I am heavily dependent on reading glasses, but I DON'T WEAR THEM TO DRIVE.

Now you stepped in it...

-MT
Robert Redelmeier - 01 Dec 2004 19:55 GMT
>> I am heavily dependent on reading glasses, but I DON'T WEAR THEM TO DRIVE.

> Now you stepped in it...  > > -MT

Bigtime!  Now we will have to hear how wearing minus lenses
eliminates presbyopia.

Now I'm going to step in it:  Rishi & Otis may be loons, but we know:

1)  People who do little near work have low incidence of myopia.
2)  When same population starts doing near work, myopia skyrockets.
3)  Plus lenses don't help, so focus isn't the cause
4)  But there must be some  OTHER  cause -- prism?  gravity/axis?
5)  May not be good to cure.  I'd rather wear distance vision
      glasses than readers.  Larger tolerances.

-- Robert
Rishi Giovanni Gatti - 01 Dec 2004 23:33 GMT
> >> I am heavily dependent on reading glasses, but I DON'T WEAR THEM TO DRIVE.

You dont' understand, of course, my point.
The science, so called, you believe in, is totally wrong and against
the plain evidence of the facts.
I do not know why it is so.

> Bigtime!  Now we will have to hear how wearing minus lenses
> eliminates presbyopia.

Presbyopia you can eliminate easily without any glasses, just learning
the proper use of the eyes, memory and imagination.

> 1)  People who do little near work have low incidence of myopia.

Not true.

> 2)  When same population starts doing near work, myopia skyrockets.

Not true for all. Explain why AT LEAST ONE gets no mypia.

> 3)  Plus lenses don't help, so focus isn't the cause

I don't like plus lenses, but since the PILOT who wears them just
starts exercising his vision with a snellen chart, to me it is a good
work to do.

> 4)  But there must be some  OTHER  cause -- prism?  gravity/axis?

Discard this. The causes for imperfect sight are plainly in sight: it
is strain to see.

> 5)  May not be good to cure.  I'd rather wear distance vision
>        glasses than readers.  Larger tolerances.

You'd rather be cured by rest methods.
And return as God created you, without spectacles.
The Real Bev - 02 Dec 2004 05:45 GMT
> So, he gave me the drive test, about 20 minutes of driving around the
> exact area where I've lived for the last 25 years.  I passed easily, and
> now for the first time in almost 40 years I have an unrestricted driving
> license.

WAY TO GO!  Good for 5 years now, right?

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Bev
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is to employ the unemployable."

Dan Abel - 02 Dec 2004 19:14 GMT
> > So, he gave me the drive test, about 20 minutes of driving around the
> > exact area where I've lived for the last 25 years.  I passed easily, and
> > now for the first time in almost 40 years I have an unrestricted driving
> > license.
>
> WAY TO GO!  Good for 5 years now, right?

I wasn't told specifically, but my wife went through the same process last
spring (flunked the vision screening twice, and had to take a driving test
to prove that she could drive with one eye).  She was told that it was a
one-time thing, and that she would never have to take another driving test
(for that condition, at least).

I understand that your mother had to take a driving test, and things may
be different for her.  For my wife and I, our conditions are not age
related (we are 54), and in both cases the OD marked our DMV forms in the
checkbox labelled "stable".  If your mother's eye problems are age related
and/or degenerative, then the DMV may well require periodic driving tests.

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